Fairweather Followers and Parting Blow

By KyK, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

A simple question.

Parting blow: Response: After a character you control leaves play, choose and kneel 1 character controlled by an opponent. Then, draw 1 card.

Fairweather followers. If it is Summer, stand Fairweather Followers each time an event card is played.

If it is summer and someone uses Parting blow against the fairweather followers, the continual effect of the followers to stand after an event, occurs before or after the response of the parting blow? I want to know if "event card is played" is when you show the event, of when you activate the response of it, so the followers stand or kneel in that situation.

Thanks for the answers ^^

KyK said:

If it is summer and someone uses Parting blow against the fairweather followers, the continual effect of the followers to stand after an event, occurs before or after the response of the parting blow? I want to know if "event card is played" is when you show the event, of when you activate the response of it, so the followers stand or kneel in that situation.

I think you may be making this more complicated than it needs to be.

There is no distinction between playing the event card and activating the Response. They are the same thing. When any effect is triggered, it follow the same basic progression:

1. Initiate the effect (Pay costs - including playing the event card - and choose targets)
2. Save/Cancel opportunity
3. Resolve the effect (ie, Complete what was started in #1 if it wasn't interrupted in #2)
4. Resolve passive effects caused by 1-3
5. Trigger Response effects to anything in 1-4

So, since initiating the effect in #1 includes both playing the event AND activating the Response (ie, the event's effect), it will resolve in #3 before any passive effects take place in #4.

So, since the Fairweather Followers "stand when an event is played" effect is passive (not continuous - there is a difference in this game), Parting Blow would initiate in #1, kneel them in #3, and they would stand themselves in #4.

For a more detailed explanation of the timing mechanics of the game, as well as the slight differences between triggering normal effects, Response effects, and game (framework) effects, take a look at the FAQ.

Does the event has to be played succesfuly? What if it gets canceled. I guess now it does not matter sice all cancels are events too so they would trigger the ability anyway but still I was wondering what if?

Rozy said:

Does the event has to be played succesfuly? What if it gets canceled. I guess now it does not matter sice all cancels are events too so they would trigger the ability anyway but still I was wondering what if?

Playing the event from your hand is part of its cost. The event is played whether it successfully resolves or not - just like a character that kneels to pay for its ability is knelt whether their ability is canceled or not.

Rozy said:

Does the event has to be played succesfuly? What if it gets canceled. I guess now it does not matter sice all cancels are events too so they would trigger the ability anyway but still I was wondering what if?

There are a some non-event cancels (eg The Tower of the Hand Eddard Stark, Besiegers of Dorne).