If FIVE. CARTEL. MARAUDERS. ever makes this list, I'm seriously gonna cry.

They had a good showing at Worlds. 38 points is a sweet old spot for them. Be kind FFG, plz.

46 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

If FIVE. CARTEL. MARAUDERS. ever makes this list, I'm seriously gonna cry.

They had a good showing at Worlds. 38 points is a sweet old spot for them. Be kind FFG, plz.

I could see them going up to 39. Never above 40 though. It's been proven that doesn't ruin stuff.

Now if only we could prove that with 33-pt TIE Interceptors...

7 hours ago, Covered in Weasels said:

Maybe add the Rebel Beef variant with Braylen Stramm + Cassian Andor, Leia crew, and two more beefy ships like Wedge or Dutch. The basic sort of list is still a solid choice, but players have needed to swap in less expensive options to make the points work. It's no longer the dominant meta presence it used to be.

I was going to mention the same thing. The beefiest version died to a points change for Leia as the dominant factor, I think.

I miss Drea.

7 hours ago, Covered in Weasels said:

Maybe add the Rebel Beef variant with Braylen Stramm + Cassian Andor, Leia crew, and two more beefy ships like Wedge or Dutch.

I think Cassian w/Leia, Braylen, Ten, Wedge was the beefiest version, that's what I heard grief about in my area anyways.

49 minutes ago, nitrobenz said:

I think Cassian w/Leia, Braylen, Ten, Wedge was the beefiest version, that's what I heard grief about in my area anyways.

Always Cassian/Leia, Braylen, Wedge. The 4th was up for debate; Ten, Dutch, Biggs, a generic U-Wing, and a Selfless Blade were all fairly common choices, and even Jake was taken a bit. Fun fact:

Cassian Andor (51)
Leia Organa (6)
Pivot Wing (0)
Braylen Stramm (51)
Wedge Antilles (55)
Servomotor S-Foils (0)
Jake Farrell (36)
Crack Shot (1)
Total: 200

View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0: https://raithos.github.io/?f=Rebel Alliance&d=v8ZsZ200Z32XWWW46WW140Y73XWWWWWY5XWWWW142Y50X116WW&sn=Unnamed Squadron&obs=

6 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

If FIVE. CARTEL. MARAUDERS. ever makes this list, I'm seriously gonna cry.

They had a good showing at Worlds. 38 points is a sweet old spot for them. Be kind FFG, plz.

FIVE. CARTEL. MARAUDERS.

is honestly the single greatest litmus test for any list. If your list can lose no ships and take down all five, you have a good, solid list that can win you a tournament if played right. Because that's like, just, seriously deadly stuff.

5 hours ago, KCDodger said:

FIVE. CARTEL. MARAUDERS.

is honestly the single greatest litmus test for any list. If your list can lose no ships and take down all five, you have a good, solid list that can win you a tournament if played right. Because that's like, just, seriously deadly stuff.

Probably why we're not getting 5 T65s back yet.

Cartels have the jousting power but not the dogfighting tools of the t65 or the better shield ratio.

11 hours ago, Bucknife said:

Probably why we're not getting 5 T65s back yet.

Cartels have the jousting power but not the dogfighting tools of the t65 or the better shield ratio.

Yeah, more or less.

I do wonder if they could drop the chassis a point and make S-Foils 1 though. Of course they don't have to, but if they won't there's a lot of stuff that will have to go up if the lowest generics want to do good work.

49 minutes ago, ClassicalMoser said:

Yeah, more or less.

I do wonder if they could drop the chassis a point and make S-Foils 1 though. Of course they don't have to, but if they won't there's a lot of stuff that will have to go up if the lowest generics want to do good work.

Maybe even still free Foils.

I mean, at least the Cartels still have spare points for DMS. ...

9 minutes ago, Bucknife said:

Maybe even still free Foils.

I mean, at least the Cartels still have spare points for DMS. ...

I need to get two more black sun Kihraxzes so I can fly 5x DMS Cartel Marauders. You keep them all at a distance and you really can do some crazy things. It scares Guri, Fenn, Soontir, etc. out of taking those R1-outside-arc kill shots because of what it does to them. Keeping them loose avoids autodamage and creates some amazing potential for arc coverage and killboxes.

I need to fly more scum in general. Just so hung up on my imperials...

I think it would be pretty interesting to see how the point costs of each of these squads changes over time. Like what would "squad of legend" cost now vs. then. It might provide some insight into what FFG thinks regarding points changes.

I do apologize for suggesting work that I am not currently able to do myself.

Boba/ Han gunner/ marauder got the hammer usually with Palob

3 hours ago, ClassicalMoser said:

Sorry, Moser. Phone quoting/unquoting problems.

2 hours ago, RebelProfundity said:

Like what would "squad of legend" cost now vs. then

Rebel,

Almost without fail, if one of these squads is still buildable (like, if they still have the upgrade slots to take the same stuff), they come out to 220ish points after updates.

2 hours ago, JBFancourt said:

Boba/ Han gunner/ marauder got the hammer usually with Palob

What was this squad usually called? I faced it a few times. The one I remember had a Crow and Lando Escape Pod with Tac.

Yeah exactly. I don’t know. Boba and friends?? Idk it was before first update.

Also when Redline and Deathrain and hawk title were hit hard along with trajectory sim and SNR ... or was SNR Vader second points change??

On 11/8/2019 at 5:37 PM, JBFancourt said:

Yeah exactly. I don’t know. Boba and friends?? Idk it was before first update.

Also when Redline and Deathrain and hawk title were hit hard along with trajectory sim and SNR ... or was SNR Vader second points change??

SNR was the first point change. It was targeted not only for Vader, but for pretty much all force users, given that it had just so much value for only 12 pt (which was 4pt more than Adv. Sensors back then). Unless you were fielding Sense to some very good and specific uses or Hate on Assaj (also RIP), it was pretty much the default force power even if you were fielding Luke.

It was a good change, given that it opens the choices to larger list diversity. You could still take SNR if you really want it (Inky's and Kylo, for instance have their niche uses for it), but there is no "default" force power. 10 pt Trajectory Simulator is unwelcome though, given that it limits list diversity (i.e., by forcing you not to take it. Who knows, maybe the Delta 7 will gain sensor and device slots to change that up so that it would be worth it at 10).

Four Horseman

List: Palob with Title and few points/Jakku/4LOM with AS and Title/Kavil with Han/Protorps/Turret/R4

Won System Open in UK and few tournies on Listfortress as well.

Redline/Whisper/Sai (guess we can file it all under Whisper with Vader Crew and Juke and Redline with Torps + additional ship)