7 hours ago, Tokous said:

Why did you even start playing this game!?

To waste money and make my life pointlessly more complicated. Isn't that the purpose of all grown-up hobbies?

It’s just a game. It has no negative impact on my life.

1 hour ago, TauntaunScout said:

To waste money and make my life pointlessly more complicated. Isn't that the purpose of all grown-up hobbies?

No, but doesn't mean it isn't that way for you. For some it is being social; supporting star wars, simply like tabletop war games over card games, etc etc with near infinite answers to each and every gamer. Why playing this game...That wasn't a question, more of a statement in regards to inspiration. To remember and lean back on that when lost, bored, or in doubt about playing further, though of course responsible adult decision making is helpful. Don't be failing to pay bills, etc just to play this game.

15 minutes ago, Tokous said:

Why playing this game...That wasn't a question, more of a statement in regards to inspiration. To remember and lean back on that when lost, bored, or in doubt about playing further, though of course responsible adult decision making is helpful. Don't be failing to pay bills, etc just to play this game.

Oh ok gottit. No more extra mortgages for more Legion.

I play this game to push cool looking SW figures around a better playset than anything Kenner/Hasbro ever made. I don't care if I lose as long as the opponent painted their stuff, doesn't cheat, and showered in the last 24 hour period. We do need dice and unit stats and stuff though, to take place of a child's vivid imagination. If all I wanted was a challenging game there's chess. If all I wanted was socialization, there's beer. Star Wars doesn't need my support, it's doing just fine. I supported it back in 1986-1998, when it actually needed it. I doubt a year has gone by since the first prequel in 1999 that the franchise wasn't orders of magnitude healthier than it was in the late 80's/early 90's.

I am trying to keep my competitive side out of this game (Hold the door!). The last "miniatures" game I played, Heroclix, I became very competitive as I got better at it, but still kept myself confined to the teams and figures I enjoyed playing (not min-maxing). But here, I just wanted to have fun, although, since I am competitive by nature, now that I've played about 12 league games, and won 1, the losing is wearing on me.

Usually I can identify my mistakes, but also, I've noticed a lot of my swings have come down to just blind luck, as can be the case in any dice game. But much of my losing I can pinpoint to mistakes I've made, or just mental issues. One of my biggest areas of weakness is placing terrain or having the right variety to make it where I don't auto-lose to an AT-ST that can sit in a spot and see everything. Also, the order of using Command Cards, when do to so, and how to rightly plan ahead for the next turn still elude me.

I just try to get better each time and not make the same mistakes twice! I don't play but once every 2 weeks, so with limited opportunities, a lot of the time, those mistakes and experiments seem magnified, also considering how long it takes to play a game, my brain subconsciously gives events and games more weight than it would when I played Heroclix and we'd play 3-5 games in 3 hours.

3 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

Oh ok gottit. No more extra mortgages for more Legion.

I play this game to push cool looking SW figures around a better playset than anything Kenner/Hasbro ever made. I don't care if I lose as long as the opponent painted their stuff, doesn't cheat, and showered in the last 24 hour period. We do need dice and unit stats and stuff though, to take place of a child's vivid imagination. If all I wanted was a challenging game there's chess. If all I wanted was socialization, there's beer. Star Wars doesn't need my support, it's doing just fine. I supported it back in 1986-1998, when it actually needed it. I doubt a year has gone by since the first prequel in 1999 that the franchise wasn't orders of magnitude healthier than it was in the late 80's/early 90's.

you lost me several post ago with more irrelevant info. Last time I checked the topic was how to cope with failure (in question form seeking advice); not how and why do you play legion, your thoughts about it, views and perspective, opinions, and literally anything else other than the topic at hand...could do a bit less of the snooty sarcasm too but it is what it is.

6 minutes ago, Tokous said:

Last time I checked the topic was how to cope with failure (in question form seeking advice);

My honest answer on that is an incomplete list of reasons why I've become desensitized to losing and winning:

• Refereeing games where you aren't trying to win at all
• Running lots of demos where the outcome is irrelevant anyways
• Seeing that over the years, the people with the best winning records in any given community were also who I least wanted to be like overall
• Coming from an RPG-heavy background where there isn't ever a clear winner
• Knowing that a points-buy system probably can never do more than approximate balance anyways
• Usually the most awesome stories do not come from the games I've won, or even from games where I can remember who won
• It's a literally meaningless victory: no money is being bet, no one is going to jail if I lose, no nothing

18 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

My honest answer on that is an incomplete list of reasons why I've become desensitized to losing and winning:

• Refereeing games where you aren't trying to win at all
• Running lots of demos where the outcome is irrelevant anyways
• Seeing that over the years, the people with the best winning records in any given community were also who I least wanted to be like overall
• Coming from an RPG-heavy background where there isn't ever a clear winner
• Knowing that a points-buy system probably can never do more than approximate balance anyways
• Usually the most awesome stories do not come from the games I've won, or even from games where I can remember who won
• It's a literally meaningless victory: no money is being bet, no one is going to jail if I lose, no nothing

It may be something to do with us being oldish too. I don't really feel like I have anything to prove to myself or others- those are young people problems.

We're Tarkins, not Krennics.

3 hours ago, Katarn said:

It may be something to do with us being oldish too. I don't really feel like I have anything to prove to myself or others- those are young people problems.

We're Tarkins, not Krennics.

Maybe. But I honestly don't understand why my fellow humans care about the outcome of a football game between two groups of rich people they've never met. So yeah.

And I'm probably younger than Krennic!

6 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

But I honestly don't understand why my fellow humans care about the outcome of a football game between two groups of rich people they've never met.

My colleagues and students have never been able to give me a straight answer. I don't get why anyone would spend so much watching people do the fun thing they could be doing for free. One said something about being part of something bigger than them but that's about it.

6 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

And I'm probably younger than Krennic!

Biologically- Krennic has the emotional maturity of a much younger person. I wasn't suggesting you're a living ancestor. Honest. 😉

6 hours ago, Katarn said:

My colleagues and students have never been able to give me a straight answer.

Yeah. The idea that I even would need to compartmentalize or otherwise "deal with" failure in a game is kind of fundamentally alien to me. Loss of a job, end of a relationship, having a day where I fail to parent patiently, etc. are failures. Losing a game is just not a failure that rates on my scale.

There are definitely negative game experiences though. These ARE usually games where I lose, but that's really about the high crossover between win at all costs minmaxers, and people who are just no fun to be around. You tend to lose to these people. But they also tend to field armies that are total eyesores (to help them win in a $'s effective manner, since they have to re-collect their army roughly four times a year to chase the win), they don't talk about anything but opposing rolls, don't shower, are culturally illiterate, etc. That's no good. The way I look at it, if I had to pretty much wear the proverbial pocket protectors to regularly win, then winning is for losers and I'd rather win at real life.

Indeed. In all honesty, I get frustrated when I do careless/stupid things in games whether I win or lose but I also get frustrated when I screw up parallel parking or drop beetroot on my shirt. The comparatively epic failures of real life make game losses fairly insignificant.

1 hour ago, Katarn said:

or drop beetroot on my shirt.

Now you just sound Australian.

Delicious but deadly. To shirts. Honestly, it's much worse than losing at Legion.

33 minutes ago, Katarn said:

Delicious but deadly. To shirts. Honestly, it's much worse than losing at Legion.

Oh. In Australia they put slices of beets on burgers (usually without asking, it's just like the lettuce and pickles and stuff here) and pronounce it all one word like that, "beetroot".

For actually dealing with what I consider failures, I either deal very well or very poorly... Things either don't faze me at all (almost all things), or I am annoyed by them for years, or decades.

5 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

Oh. In Australia they put slices of beets on burgers (usually without asking, it's just like the lettuce and pickles and stuff here) and pronounce it all one word like that, "beetroot".

For actually dealing with what I consider failures, I either deal very well or very poorly... Things either don't faze me at all (almost all things), or I am annoyed by them for years, or decades.

You obsess over things decades old? You??

We’d have never guessed. 😉

6 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

Oh. In Australia they put slices of beets on burgers (usually without asking, it's just like the lettuce and pickles and stuff here) and pronounce it all one word like that, "beetroot".

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As nature intended!

How do I deal with getting beat?!

How do I deal with LOSING A GAME?!

HOW DO I DEAL WITH FAILURE?!?!?

1 hour ago, Chili-52 said:

How do I deal with getting beat?!

How do I deal with LOSING A GAME?!

HOW DO I DEAL WITH FAILURE?!?!?

Like Don Music said. If at first you don’t succeed, IT’S TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE!!!