Ahsoka and Cody form the Stream

By CaptainJaguarShark, in X-Wing

6 minutes ago, dotswarlock said:

Huh, I'm really susprised that the gas clouds have no further penalty.

That was what I feared.

But new factions have to sell I guess.

Getting an extra defense die is huge versus the small cost of the potential risk of miscalculating (or being bumped) and thus crossing or landing on a cloud. Costs you only the action, no potential damage, no penalty on firing.

Apart from players fielding Dash, Mining Guild TIEs or vultures, or players expecting swarms and wanting to brake them by sly obstacle placing (which is going to be difficult if the swarm opponent brings 3 beneficial obstacles) why would anyone field other things than the gas clouds?

With these things improving defense at very small risk, this

- enforces even more high Ini ace meta, because these can more effectively place themselves (more protected being in an unavoidable enemy arc by being behind cloud and maybe outmaneuvred their other target and self shooting unobstructed)

-leads to more games going to time

1 minute ago, Managarmr said:

why would anyone field other things than the gas clouds?

Because these are not private property and your opponent is getting as much benefit off of them as you?

Anyone who takes trickshot these days won't be willing to take these if the benefits of defender outweighs the benefit of attacker.

54 minutes ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

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Ahsoka Tano - I3 - After you fully execute a maneuver, you may choose a friendly ship at range 0-1 and spend 1 force. That ship may perform an action, even if it is stressed.

Cody - Gunner - After you perform an attack that missed, if 1 or more hit/crit results were cancelled, the defender gains 1 strain token.

Thanks @CaptainJaguarShark for posting these! I've added them to the Infinite Arenas online card browser.

2 minutes ago, Managarmr said:

That was what I feared.

But new factions have to sell I guess.

Getting an extra defense die is huge versus the small cost of the potential risk of miscalculating (or being bumped) and thus crossing or landing on a cloud. Costs you only the action, no potential damage, no penalty on firing.

Apart from players fielding Dash, Mining Guild TIEs or vultures, or players expecting swarms and wanting to brake them by sly obstacle placing (which is going to be difficult if the swarm opponent brings 3 beneficial obstacles) why would anyone field other things than the gas clouds?

With these things improving defense at very small risk, this

- enforces even more high Ini ace meta, because these can more effectively place themselves (more protected being in an unavoidable enemy arc by being behind cloud and maybe outmaneuvred their other target and self shooting unobstructed)

-leads to more games going to time

Gas clouds seem very strong against swarms, the more times you roll green dice the more you benefit from it, and against a swarm you will be defending more often than attacking.

I’d consider gas clouds for specific lists, but I’m largely sticking to traditional asteroids (I use debris when my list wants stress control). Ace lists for sure like them.

But trick shot is effectively nullified by gas clouds getting the blank -> evade.

If you are worried about the clouds, bring a high init pilot with hotshot gunner and hope to strip focus off, then hope for eyeball results over blanks on those green dice for the other shots going into them.

Did they say if purple actions can be performed while stressed or if you can perform a purple action after going through an obstacle?

Interesting that the devs said they saw gas clouds as a boon for swarms instead, have they mentioned Anakin's ability?

Just now, kempokid said:

Did they say if purple actions can be performed while stressed or if you can perform a purple action after going through an obstacle?

I think they said they're exactly like normal action, except you have to spend a force

21 minutes ago, Okapi said:

Would make sense. Her force power seems on par with Seventh Sister's, in a slightly weaker ship at a lower initiative. 45 points maybe?

Too much on that platform with only two force, and at that initiative, imo. She might cost that (or more), but I don't think she'll be competitive then. She probably needs to come in under 40, but I don;'t think she will.

1 minute ago, FriendofYoda said:

Interesting that the devs said they saw gas clouds as a boon for swarms instead, have they mentioned Anakin's ability?

No. He’s not on the table so I doubt we will see him. The only previously unspoiled content was Ahsoka pilot and Cody gunner

1 minute ago, FriendofYoda said:

I think they said they're exactly like normal action, except you have to spend a force

Meh. I suppose that makes sense, but significantly drops their use case.

4 minutes ago, kempokid said:

Did they say if purple actions can be performed while stressed or if you can perform a purple action after going through an obstacle?

You won't be able to perform purple actions because moving through or overlapping an asteroid makes you skip your action step. No step means no opportunity to take an action.

Blackout + TS + PA + gas clouds = P.R.O.F.I.T

Grappling Struts aren't free, aren't auto-include cost. They won't say how much, though. Points are waiting until release.

@heychadwick - devs confirm on stream barrel rolling out of the buzz droids works.

4 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

@heychadwick - devs confirm on stream barrel rolling out of the buzz droids works.

Yep! Looks like I'm wrong on the Buzz Droids! Can't win 'em all! 😄

Also Buzz droid relocate to the last ship to touch them. If they are already placed at range 0 in the guides of a ship and another ship go through them, they relocate to the last one. Gonna be fun to pass the hot potato.

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2 minutes ago, Ximatique said:

Also Buzz droid relocate to the last ship to touch them. If they are already placed at range 0 in the guides of a ship and another ship go through them, they relocate to the last one.

I expected that was the case. I was honestly surprised anyone saw it the other way but of course- until the rule guide is updated, who knows what they're misunderstanding or missing, right? (And maybe even after then.)

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31 minutes ago, Ximatique said:

Also Buzz droid relocate to the last ship to touch them. If they are already placed at range 0 in the guides of a ship and another ship go through them, they relocate to the last one. Gonna be fun to pass the hot potato.

Could also lead to some interesting play for the person who launched them. You could place the swarm in such a way that it attaches to a low-PS ship, who sheds it, but leaves it in the path of a higher-PS ship.

2 hours ago, dotswarlock said:

Huh, I'm really susprised that the gas clouds have no further penalty.

I mean, it sounds very comparable to flying through IRL clouds, you become a little disoriented, but that’s it. You hope nothing nasty happens!

1 hour ago, AlexW said:

Too much on that platform with only two force, and at that initiative, imo. She might cost that (or more), but I don't think she'll be competitive then. She probably needs to come in under 40, but I don;'t think she will.

Well, she’s kind of like Jake Farrel but better, with a lower initiative, so maybe 35? That’s my guess.

1 hour ago, FriendofYoda said:

Interesting that the devs said they saw gas clouds as a boon for swarms instead, have they mentioned Anakin's ability?

If you go to the "Carolina Krayts is the best X-Wing podcast" feed someone has mentioned Anakins ability (don't know how much to trust but seems legit)

2 hours ago, dotswarlock said:

Huh, I'm really susprised that the gas clouds have no further penalty.

Did they say clouds don't cause extra defense die when they obstruct?

3 hours ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

Ahsoka Tano with calibrated laser targeting and predictive shot

So predictive shot should be in the Republic pack. Hopefully.

30 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Well, she’s kind of like Jake Farrel but better, with a lower initiative, so maybe 35? That’s my guess.

She is much, much better than Jake. If Jake wants to do three actions, it has to be barrel roll, focus and boost, in that order, and he gets a stress token. Ahsoka can do more or less any actions she wants, in almost any order (say, boost > roll > focus or lock > boost > focus), with just a couple of limitations:

  • Her ship ability action (which can be either the first or the second action) has to be either a boost or a roll.
  • Her evade action is purple, limiting her to two actions that turn.
  • She only reloads 1 force token per turn, so triple actions are limited to every other turn.

Then again, she doesn't get stressed from it, and more importantly, she can perform actions while stressed. Thought Primed Thrusters were good? Well, Ahsoka har Primed Everything. Sloop > roll, kturn > focus, etc.

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