Seriously, give us more tournament-legal Stormtrooper options, like Stormtrooper crewed E-Webs.

Go to skullforge. They have stormies that can mount an Eweb

4 hours ago, Docgimmethenews said:

Go to skullforge. They have stormies that can mount an Eweb

Yes but then I have to buy two sets, ffg one for cards and rules and skullforge ones. I'd really like options that mustn't be winter themed unit between jungle or forests Units...

3 hours ago, Tubb said:

Yes but then I have to buy two sets, ffg one for cards and rules and skullforge ones. I'd really like options that mustn't be winter themed unit between jungle or forests Units...

That is only when you think about snowtroopers being only snowtroopers.

They are just "heavely graded armour troopers for extremes conditions".

Sure, but then you'll need to fly to Japan or something to buy them...

I don't think the alt Vader implementation is something we should want FFG to keep doing.

2 hours ago, RaevenKS said:

That is only when you think about snowtroopers being only snowtroopers.

They are just "heavely graded armour troopers for extremes conditions".

No, they are not. They are winter cold stormtroopers. You can anyway think about them however you like, but at least the suites they are wearing are designed for extreme conditions... they are just stormtroopers (elite or not) dressed for another environment, and if you want a thematic army they don't make sense.

15 hours ago, Stormtrooper721 said:

Seriously, give us more tournament-legal Stormtrooper options, like Stormtrooper crewed E-Webs.

There are huge gaps in this miniatures line and the filling in of those gaps is relatively slow. Alternative sculpts of existing units are unlikely for years.

Letting the tournament minmaxers have their cake and eat it too is probably low on the list of ways to increase sales.

Only two of the imperial SKU's so far won't mesh with a forest, desert, indoor, or jungle themed imperial army.

8 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

There are huge gaps in this miniatures line and the filling in of those gaps is relatively slow. Alternative sculpts of existing units are unlikely for years.

Letting the tournament minmaxers have their cake and eat it too is probably low on the list of ways to increase sales.

Only two of the imperial SKU's so far won't mesh with a forest, desert, indoor, or jungle themed imperial army.

And the filling for these huge gaps aren't coming, I am sadly sure about it. It's been more than a year and all we got are a couple of troop options, and one is a extreme environment version of the other... not excited about the way they have chosen the expansions. And considering they have already anounced clone wars in legion... forget about my wanted imperial army or navy troops...

First, we will have the clone wars boxed set, then lots of (commander and operatives) expansions, a couple of troops (clone II and some other robots) and some vehicles and artillery weapons... and then, after a couple of years... more troops for the basic game that already needs at least three troops????? what are they thinking?

And I am not really thinking about whole new units... even just a multipose plastic stormtrooper box would be enough to make me buy three boxes!! something diferent and troops!!

1 hour ago, Tubb said:

And the filling for these huge gaps aren't coming, I am sadly sure about it. It's been more than a year and all we got are a couple of troop options, and one is a extreme environment version of the other... not excited about the way they have chosen the expansions. And considering they have already anounced clone wars in legion... forget about my wanted imperial army or navy troops...

First, we will have the clone wars boxed set, then lots of (commander and operatives) expansions, a couple of troops (clone II and some other robots) and some vehicles and artillery weapons... and then, after a couple of years... more troops for the basic game that already needs at least three troops????? what are they thinking?

And I am not really thinking about whole new units... even just a multipose plastic stormtrooper box would be enough to make me buy three boxes!! something diferent and troops!!

But you don't know that's how it will work. Be patient, I am sure more is coming soon.

43 minutes ago, TalkPolite said:

But you don't know that's how it will work. Be patient, I am sure more is coming soon.

Hoping you are right, but now the news tells us that next are Krennic and death troopers (another commander?!) and still not a single corps unit(death guards are not corps). This is coming in 2Q. Then, later, the rebels will have the x-34 and imperials the occupier (perhaps by 3Q) Then we know is going to come Sabine and Bossk (still more characters...) and they will come more or less in october or november... On xmas we will sure have clone wars... You mean I have to wait two years or longer to have ONE corps option that is not a winter version of the already known stormtrooper???

21 minutes ago, Tubb said:

Hoping you are right, but now the news tells us that next are Krennic and death troopers (another commander?!) and still not a single corps unit(death guards are not corps). This is coming in 2Q. Then, later, the rebels will have the x-34 and imperials the occupier (perhaps by 3Q) Then we know is going to come Sabine and Bossk (still more characters...) and they will come more or less in october or november... On xmas we will sure have clone wars... You mean I have to wait two years or longer to have ONE corps option that is not a winter version of the already known stormtrooper???

You are seriously the only person keeping yourself in a box that these are and can only be winter themed, or that winter only looks like Hoth in the middle of a blizzard. A little imagination, some different color schemes and basing tricks can really change your perception of this.

2 hours ago, Tubb said:

And the filling for these huge gaps aren't coming, I am sadly sure about it. It's been more than a year and all we got are a couple of troop options, and one is a extreme environment version of the other... not excited about the way they have chosen the expansions. And considering they have already anounced clone wars in legion... forget about my wanted imperial army or navy troops...

First, we will have the clone wars boxed set, then lots of (commander and operatives) expansions, a couple of troops (clone II and some other robots) and some vehicles and artillery weapons... and then, after a couple of years... more troops for the basic game that already needs at least three troops????? what are they thinking?

And I am not really thinking about whole new units... even just a multipose plastic stormtrooper box would be enough to make me buy three boxes!! something diferent and troops!!

Well, we know that at least one new Imperial core is in advanced development, per Luke Eddy's statement during interview that his current favourite list is "Krennic, Deathtroopers, two E-Webs and six things I can't talk about".

33 minutes ago, Tubb said:

Hoping you are right, but now the news tells us that next are Krennic and death troopers (another commander?!) and still not a single corps unit(death guards are not corps). This is coming in 2Q. Then, later, the rebels will have the x-34 and imperials the occupier (perhaps by 3Q) Then we know is going to come Sabine and Bossk (still more characters...) and they will come more or less in october or november... On xmas we will sure have clone wars... You mean I have to wait two years or longer to have ONE corps option that is not a winter version of the already known stormtrooper???

You’re release schedule is a little out of proportion. FFG does monthly releases, so if Krennic/DT drop this month like the should, tanks come in April and Bossk/Sabine come in May. That leaves plenty of time for more Corps.

Luke Eddy also stated on Fifth Trooper that his favorite list right now was Krennic, DTs, three E-webs, and 6 units he couldn’t detail yet. I have a feeling new Corps for both armies are right around the corner. With that in mind, we’ll have (per army)

Three Commanders

Two Operatives

Three Corps

Three Special Forces

Two Support

Two Heavies

So it would surprise me to see maybe another support thrown in on top of that. That would make for two well rounded armies before CW drops.

Make that 4 commanders, not including the generic one.

1 minute ago, costi said:

Make that 4 commanders, not including the generic one.

You’re right - can’t forget good old commander Bob!

9 hours ago, Tubb said:

And the filling for these huge gaps aren't coming, I am sadly sure about it. It's been more than a year and all we got are a couple of troop options, and one is a extreme environment version of the other... not excited about the way they have chosen the expansions. And considering they have already anounced clone wars in legion... forget about my wanted imperial army or navy troops..

The whole line so far is very limiting which is sad because it's unnecessary. Death Troopers were a really weird choice for a slot, which is still fine, if the slots weren't being taken up by other bizarre allotments for (at this point) highly limited resources. But like... in any other minis line thus far, the sculpts called "troopers" woulda been called "commandos", so, releasing rebel commandos was another such limiting choice. Since the aforementioned " rebel troopers" aren't excluded from a Scarif paintjob by virtue of the details of their gear, the Pathfinders were another limiting choice. We already had biker scouts to create the Endor vibe in our imperials, and then we got scouts on foot to double up on that. Any one of these choices is fine but it all adds up.

Commanders are compulsory so I like having lots of choices there, I won't complain about the number of commanders, even if the sculpts are all useless to me so I don't buy them. But since corps are also compulsory, only having two of them to pick from is bad.

One thing to remember though, stormtrooper armor can keep you alive for brief periods in space. Compared to space any habitable planet is going to be fine. You won't die of cold on Hoth in regular armor, nor asphyxiate from the heat on Tatooine in snowtrooper armor. I imagine you wouldn't run into problems associated with wearing the "wrong" armor until after a week or so in the theater. Given the speed of travel, getting rapidly redeployed in the "wrong" armor is entirely plausible. Not that this would compel me to ever mix the two in my armies. Yuck. I already owned three Star Wars minis games, modelling options is the only reason I bought into Legion.

I think it's a staggered marketing thing to get us to collect armies we otherwise wouldn't. Hoth Empire with no one to fight, Endor rebels with no Ewoks, etc. People will buy stuff to fill those gaps when it's released later, plus other stuff they normally wouldn't so they can play now.

While I agree the E-Webs shouldn't have been so narrowly made to only have Snowtroopers, there are ways around it. Besides Skullforge, you can also try painting the crews to be something other than Snowtroopers (they look more than a bit like Mudtroopers with the right paint jobs), or you can turn actual stormtroopers into E-Web crews with a tad bit of work, and at most, it'll cost you a pair of HH-12 guys.

Not the best pictures (or paintjobs) in the world, but my attempts to put these options into practice:

I say NO! If only because I will never be able to get to the event to get it anyway.

4 hours ago, Alpha17 said:

Not the best pictures (or paintjobs) in the world, but my attempts to put these options into practice:

Don't forget UZAY! If I am ever feeling especially insane I'll paint an army of blue snowtroopers with white guns. Maybe I'll make just a squad of them for D6 and they'll be some band of space pirates.

5 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

Don't forget UZAY! If I am ever feeling especially insane I'll paint an army of blue snowtroopers with white guns. Maybe I'll make just a squad of them for D6 and they'll be some band of space pirates.

That's just what happens to me whenever I see coloured snowtroopers... i think of bootleg turkish action figures XDDDDDD

Anyway, I have read some good thoughts around here. Even myself was determined to buy an snowtrooper squad to paint them in red and white, because it was the only cannon material I could find about snowtrooper armour being used for other purpose diferent than extreme environment, it was flametroopers, and are canon.

BUT still my UZAY visions don't allow me to buy them and paint them red and place them around my Endor table... And still it would be a decision made of desperation: if I had other options I wouldn't do it.

So I'll still wait for another corps (thanks to all that have said it will be closer than what I think), or quit because of boredom.

And I feel like a lot of the customization surrounding snowtroopers are born with the same idea in mind: people really feel they don't really fit outside an ice planet, or a windy one, or an extreme condition place where my Luke Skywalker wouldn't go with a short jacket... And what will happen when they give us a dewback that would fit perfect in any place except Hoth...?

A dewback alongside snowtroopers would be much bizarre...

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BUT still my UZAY visions don't allow me to buy them and paint them red and place them around my Endor table... And still it would be a decision made of desperation: if I had other options I wouldn't do it.

My Imperial army is all-Hoth. When I play on an Endor table at a store I just have to deal. In a normal planet (not the movie stereotyped single-ecosystem ones) it would take like 5 minutes using SW ships, to redeploy a bunch of imperial troops from Antarctica to a redwood rainforest... so... yeah. Showing up in the wrong suit is highly probable in Star Wars.

As for getting bored and wandering off, I fear the new Battletech box might get me. At $60 with two lances and an extremely nostalgic set of box contents, it might knock $90 SW:Legion off it's perch as "best value in a scifi miniature wargame". I'll see if I have enough fun painting those 8 'mechs to buy more.

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A dewback alongside snowtroopers would be much bizarre...

Not as bizarre as unpainted minis!

10 hours ago, Tubb said:

That's just what happens to me whenever I see coloured snowtroopers... i think of bootleg turkish action figures XDDDDDD

Anyway, I have read some good thoughts around here. Even myself was determined to buy an snowtrooper squad to paint them in red and white, because it was the only cannon material I could find about snowtrooper armour being used for other purpose diferent than extreme environment, it was flametroopers, and are canon.

BUT still my UZAY visions don't allow me to buy them and paint them red and place them around my Endor table... And still it would be a decision made of desperation: if I had other options I wouldn't do it.

So I'll still wait for another corps (thanks to all that have said it will be closer than what I think), or quit because of boredom.

And I feel like a lot of the customization surrounding snowtroopers are born with the same idea in mind: people really feel they don't really fit outside an ice planet, or a windy one, or an extreme condition place where my Luke Skywalker wouldn't go with a short jacket... And what will happen when they give us a dewback that would fit perfect in any place except Hoth...?

A dewback alongside snowtroopers would be much bizarre...

"Snow"troopers were used on Jakku in the comics during the Battle of Jakku. I could see Dewbacks on Jakku. If we're fighting in snow, then they're some sort of Dewback-like creature that's okay in lower temps. It's not hard with judicious use of one's imagination.

7 minutes ago, arnoldrew said:

"Snow"troopers were used on Jakku in the comics during the Battle of Jakku. I could see Dewbacks on Jakku. If we're fighting in snow, then they're some sort of Dewback-like creature that's okay in lower temps. It's not hard with judicious use of one's imagination.

I'm still halfways convinced dewbacks are warmblooded, no matter what a wiki or a license holder says. The post 1997 CGI dewbacks don't look like cold blooded animals at all. The leg positioning is all wrong.

But a crazy person like me will convert snowtroopers on tauntauns if they'll make the models.

2 hours ago, arnoldrew said:

"Snow"troopers were used on Jakku in the comics during the Battle of Jakku. I could see Dewbacks on Jakku. If we're fighting in snow, then they're some sort of Dewback-like creature that's okay in lower temps. It's not hard with judicious use of one's imagination.

Please could you show or guide me to find that snowtroopers on Jakku? I am not able to find them on the Internet or my collection although I own hundreds of star wars comic books. It could be a way to field them, because to me, the option you mention about using imagination is invalidated following the next though:

I don't want to simply forget about decades of known star wars lore. Star wars is so immense, rich and big that they could have hundreds of options to give us thematic and way better options rather than forcing the lore to adapt to a weird context. My reasoning is: why must I use a snowtrooper unit in a warm climate if there are TONS of other star wars Units that could operate in that climate and would look superb and not shoehorned?

2 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

I'm still halfways convinced dewbacks are warmblooded, no matter what a wiki or a license holder says. The post 1997 CGI dewbacks don't look like cold blooded animals at all. The leg positioning is all wrong.

But a crazy person like me will convert snowtroopers on tauntauns if they'll make the models.

In fact, the description of tauntauns refer to them as "haired reptilians" so, using the same logic than before, I think: why should I use a dewback on cold climate when star wars has got tauntauns??? There's a rich lore, that covers almost everything you can imagine, and still we must use the "wrong" unit or creature because they simply don't give us the option after a whole year. You want cold climate Dewbacks? There's tauntauns. You want warm climate tauntauns? There's cracian thumpers. For every idea you got there's an option in star wars, but I think they should have give us first the basic units, used in every teatre (not royal guards or snowtroopers or palps that are hardly seen in any star wars conflict) and after having every average option covered, go for the exotic option.