50 minutes ago, Tubb said:

In fact, the description of tauntauns refer to them as "haired reptilians" so, using the same logic than before, I think: why should I use a dewback on cold climate when star wars has got tauntauns??? There's a rich lore, that covers almost everything you can imagine, and still we must use the "wrong" unit or creature because they simply don't give us the option after a whole year. You want cold climate Dewbacks? There's tauntauns. You want warm climate tauntauns? There's cracian thumpers. For every idea you got there's an option in star wars, but I think they should have give us first the basic units, used in every teatre (not royal guards or snowtroopers or palps that are hardly seen in any star wars conflict) and after having every average option covered, go for the exotic option.

Well I won't go so far as to say they shouldn't have made any one thing that they've made, but it's all stacked up to be a very weird collection. And if there hadn't been snowtroopers, Veers, e-webs, snowspeeders, radar cannons and scout walkers out/announced when I gave Legion a second look, then I wouldn't have played Legion. But I do think that endless special forces is a waste of time. Imperial Navy and Rebel Hoth soldiery as corps would have given us far better options than any of the special forces I mentioned. Even though I hate that the red royal guards are even in the game, I will admit that they (like wookies) are impossible to attain via a repaint or something so they aren't a limiting model choice per se. Endless ScEndorif rebels is getting old. Endless special forces [storm]troopers is getting old. Maybe next they could merge the two into stormtrooper double agents disguised in rebel uniforms: ScEndoriftroopers! I can hear it now: These elite spies are hand picked by Palpatine himself from the most elite squads of the empires elite shock troops! There's nothing new-canon seems to like more than using the word "elite".

Since the game is set in the GCW era, nailing down the only two real land battles in the OT makes sense, hence the Hoth stuff. But I think the delay on rebel Hoth corps and commander is a sales gimmick.

The Endor choices feel random. Not what we'd need to "refight Endor", but taking up too many SKU's to let us do much else. And now we're branching off to partially cover Jedha... Whatever FFG, you do you. Like I said, I think the release schedule is determined by a blindfolded child pulling Star Wars trading cards out of a bag!

It doesn't bother me but it does make me get distracted and wander off. If the Legion releases stagnate with endless ScEndoriftroopers ad 200 point heroes, I won't buy one of everything to get the upgrade cards. I'll buy historicals or Battletech from the FLGS (or some vintage stuff on eBay) until Legion heats up again. I do appreciate that they threw me the generic commanders.

3 hours ago, Tubb said:

Please could you show or guide me to find that snowtroopers on Jakku?

I cannot cite a source as I don't actively follow comic books but I can testify to having seen comic-strip panels that could have been this.

3 hours ago, Tubb said:

My reasoning is: why must I use a snowtrooper unit in a warm climate if there are TONS of other star wars Units that could operate in that climate and would look superb and not shoehorned?

It's always going to be something. In FFG's defense, between Snow and Storm, you have a corps unit that was seen in every big GCW movie fight. Wish I could say the same for my rebels! The problem is more that they made more special forces than corps, when corps is required.

Time was we used stormtroopers for everything and just said "the guys on brown bases are snowtroopers, the ones on green bases are regular stormtroopers" if we wanted to take different types of troops in the same force. Terms like "snowtrooper" and "Hoth rebel" were used to denote a certain skill level, not to represent actual things as shown in ESB. Only a crazy person would have (in our minds back then) have shelled out for several squads of Hoth figures that would look weird on other tabletops... So what do I do now? Buy 30-40 of each on eBay just cause I can!

Pertinent to this whole discussion, if FFG's going to insist on using big named heroes, I wish we'd have seen more like Chewie who are environmentally agnostic models. Luke in his flight suit, R2 & 3PO, etc.

On 3/6/2019 at 1:00 AM, Tubb said:

Hoping you are right, but now the news tells us that next are Krennic and death troopers (another commander?!) and still not a single corps unit(death guards are not corps). This is coming in 2Q. Then, later, the rebels will have the x-34 and imperials the occupier (perhaps by 3Q) Then we know is going to come Sabine and Bossk (still more characters...) and they will come more or less in october or november... On xmas we will sure have clone wars... You mean I have to wait two years or longer to have ONE corps option that is not a winter version of the already known stormtrooper???

I recall playing another companies game and waiting for them to update their "Evil Space Elves", Battle Girls" or Specific Altered Marines" for not one or two but four or five years. Yes, sometimes its a hassle having to wait on for our favorite models to come out, convert, or seek elsewhere for options/proxies but I wouldn't lose site of the game (fun).

Besides there were Snowtroopers on Crait in TLJ. Im thinking they are hazardous environment troops.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Snowtrooper

2 hours ago, Dark Don said:

Besides there were Snowtroopers on Crait in TLJ. Im thinking they are hazardous environment troops.

These are First Order snowtroopers, not galactic civil war ones. It is not the same if they are clone soldiers, stormies, or FO soldiers. although it is widely aknowledge that the snowtrooper armour is not only for cold, it can also protect from other hazardous environments... perhaps salt is dangerous on that planet, I don't know.

3 minutes ago, Tubb said:

These are First Order snowtroopers, not galactic civil war ones. It is not the same if they are clone soldiers, stormies, or FO soldiers. although it is widely aknowledge that the snowtrooper armour is not only for cold, it can also protect from other hazardous environments... perhaps salt is dangerous on that planet, I don't know.

A high salt diet would be a danger for sure.

The reference was for something to go off of. In the end we cant have deep sea troopers for those people who want to fight Mon Calamari on the floor of an ocean.

I would say in the end, if they dont suit someones fancy, dont use them. Maybe proxy some other models.

5 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

I cannot cite a source as I don't actively follow comic books but I can testify to having seen comic-strip panels that could have been this.

Perhaps you have mistaken Jakku with Jedha?

They are deployed there because half the planet has been destroyed so there are gargantuan storms and terrible winds, so the hazardous environment justify their presence.

4 minutes ago, Dark Don said:

I would say in the end, if they dont suit someones fancy, dont use them. Maybe proxy some other models.

That's what I do, that's why I complain there are no more options. if you don't like one commander model you got three more options... what about corps??

And believe me, I really LIKE the snowtrooper models, they are great, but i prefer a thematic army.

1 minute ago, Tubb said:

Perhaps you have mistaken Jakku with Jedha?

They are deployed there because half the planet has been destroyed so there are gargantuan storms and terrible winds, so the hazardous environment justify their presence.

No. I get it ,but I can see the models being deployed as special condition troops.

12 hours ago, Tubb said:

Perhaps you have mistaken Jakku with Jedha?

They are deployed there because half the planet has been destroyed so there are gargantuan storms and terrible winds, so the hazardous environment justify their presence.

I am not saying, nor even think I know, what planet it was. Only that I saw a comic once that could have been what was being discussed. I was not the person who originally made the claim about them in this thread.

3 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

I am not saying, nor even think I know, what planet it was. Only that I saw a comic once that could have been what was being discussed. I was not the person who originally made the claim about them in this thread.

That’s why I didn’t ask to YOU where the snowtroopers were!

22 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

I cannot cite a source as I don't actively follow comic books but I can testify to having seen comic-strip panels that could have been this.

It's always going to be something. In FFG's defense, between Snow and Storm, you have a corps unit that was seen in every big GCW movie fight. Wish I could say the same for my rebels! The problem is more that they made more special forces than corps, when corps is required.

Time was we used stormtroopers for everything and just said "the guys on brown bases are snowtroopers, the ones on green bases are regular stormtroopers" if we wanted to take different types of troops in the same force. Terms like "snowtrooper" and "Hoth rebel" were used to denote a certain skill level, not to represent actual things as shown in ESB. Only a crazy person would have (in our minds back then) have shelled out for several squads of Hoth figures that would look weird on other tabletops... So what do I do now? Buy 30-40 of each on eBay just cause I can!

Pertinent to this whole discussion, if FFG's going to insist on using big named heroes, I wish we'd have seen more like Chewie who are environmentally agnostic models. Luke in his flight suit, R2 & 3PO, etc.

Congrats! Now with your tauntaun and echo base troopers you got Hoth complete!! While "average" imperial corps are still misssing... come on...

If these rebel Hoth troopers are that "six" corps units mentioned... Then now I have to wait again two years for an average imperial unit not related to an specific environment??

2 hours ago, Tubb said:

Congrats! Now with your tauntaun and echo base troopers you got Hoth complete!! While "average" imperial corps are still misssing... come on...

I'm hoping navy troopers are the next imperial corps actually. They're the only new imperial corps I'd personally buy other than the now-defunct WEG army uniforms, which are very unlikely.

Snowtroopers on Jedha

4 hours ago, Tubb said:

If these rebel Hoth troopers are that "six" corps units mentioned... Then now I have to wait again two years for an average imperial unit not related to an specific environment??

The six units that couldn't be named were mentioned in conjunction with an Imperial list. There has to be an Imperial counterpart for the list to make any sense at all.

39 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

The six units that couldn't be named were mentioned in conjunction with an Imperial list. There has to be an Imperial counterpart for the list to make any sense at all.

Then perhaps could be shoretroopers?? Imperial Navy? Mid troopers? One can dream...

3 hours ago, devin.pike.1989 said:

Snowtroopers on Jedha

As I said, their presence is justified because the planet has big storms since the death star destroyed about half the surface when destroyed Jedha city, as seen in rogue one. So Yes, hazardous environment.

15 hours ago, Tubb said:

Then perhaps could be shoretroopers?? Imperial Navy? Mid troopers? One can dream...

Almost certainly Shoretroopers or Sandtroopers. I'd expect to get an announcement next week.

59 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

Almost certainly Shoretroopers or Sandtroopers. I'd expect to get an announcement next week.

Whatever it is, it WON'T be snow-specific ESB guys so Tubb will have a second corps unit to pick from. Huzzah!

Reminds me of when Rebel Storm was out. The only imperial commons were 3 poses of stormtrooper and 1 pose of snowtrooper. 4 more assorted poses of the aforemetioned and a scouttrooper ate up almost all their uncommons. Only imperial guards and officers (uncommons) existed to give us any visual variation in the ranks for the first several years of that line. WOTC really hated any sort of Imperial "Not"troopers, for some reason. Even when they came out navy were really few and far between.