Halo ships for star-wars armada!

It's been done, I'm afraid:





Sadly, like pretty much every other non-SWArmada table-top fleet battle game (Firestorm Armada, Dystopian Wars, Dropfleet Commander, etc.) it was around for about two years then crashed.

Still got my old Halo models. Spartan was really sporadic unfortunately.

15 hours ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

It's been done, I'm afraid:





Sadly, like pretty much every other non-SWArmada table-top fleet battle game (Firestorm Armada, Dystopian Wars, Dropfleet Commander, etc.) it was around for about two years then crashed.

I blame the fact that they were not advertised. I asked a lot of gaming stores if they carried some of them, and most looked at me as if I was crazy.

21 hours ago, Zeoinx said:

I blame the fact that they were not advertised. I asked a lot of gaming stores if they carried some of them, and most looked at me as if I was crazy.

For whatever reason, fleet-style games just seem terribly niche and rarely get any significant uptake and all seem to flounder and fail in a pretty short time. Star Trek Fleet Commander, Sails of Glory, Battlefleet Gothic, A&A: War at Sea, the list goes on. Not sure if the issue a lack of advertising or just a lack of sufficient interest/demand in the hobbyist gamer community. Maybe people just prefer little toy soldiers over little toy ships? But, to be fair, the vast majority of miniature games, regardless of type, burn brightly and quickly before failing. If we look at the 5-Year survival rates of mini games, period, it is pretty bleak and abysmal.

Armada is, arguably, the most mainstream and successful game that has existed in the fleet genre. And even that... well we all know the current sad state of our community. From the outside looking in, it seems like Armada was a successfully selling game. The issue appears to have been that it wasn't successful enough to survive in-house competition with other much more broadly appealing games.

4 hours ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

For whatever reason, fleet-style games just seem terribly niche and rarely get any significant uptake and all seem to flounder and fail in a pretty short time. Star Trek Fleet Commander, Sails of Glory, Battlefleet Gothic, A&A: War at Sea, the list goes on. Not sure if the issue a lack of advertising or just a lack of sufficient interest/demand in the hobbyist gamer community. Maybe people just prefer little toy soldiers over little toy ships? But, to be fair, the vast majority of miniature games, regardless of type, burn brightly and quickly before failing. If we look at the 5-Year survival rates of mini games, period, it is pretty bleak and abysmal.

Armada is, arguably, the most mainstream and successful game that has existed in the fleet genre. And even that... well we all know the current sad state of our community. From the outside looking in, it seems like Armada was a successfully selling game. The issue appears to have been that it wasn't successful enough to survive in-house competition with other much more broadly appealing games.

My main issue is, I didnt even KNOW about the halo one (Not the one shown above either, there was another halo one, had a really detailed version of the Spirit of Fire vessel, I cant for whatever remember the brand, but they also had a ground based game too, same devs, for halo where they had a large foot long or so Pelician Dropship model for it. (I really wanted to get it, but i never had the money before they shut down as I discovered the company on the tail end like a few months before they vanished.

5 hours ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

For whatever reason, fleet-style games just seem terribly niche and rarely get any significant uptake and all seem to flounder and fail in a pretty short time. Star Trek Fleet Commander, Sails of Glory, Battlefleet Gothic, A&A: War at Sea, the list goes on. Not sure if the issue a lack of advertising or just a lack of sufficient interest/demand in the hobbyist gamer community. Maybe people just prefer little toy soldiers over little toy ships? But, to be fair, the vast majority of miniature games, regardless of type, burn brightly and quickly before failing. If we look at the 5-Year survival rates of mini games, period, it is pretty bleak and abysmal.

Armada is, arguably, the most mainstream and successful game that has existed in the fleet genre. And even that... well we all know the current sad state of our community. From the outside looking in, it seems like Armada was a successfully selling game. The issue appears to have been that it wasn't successful enough to survive in-house competition with other much more broadly appealing games.

I'm not going to say there even is a "problem" with Armada. (I'm not! This isn't another one of those threads!) We don't have to compare ourselves to any other game. Armada doesn't have to fail the way that other fleet games have, and it doesn't have to keep up with X-Wing, which is pretty much a fluke that can't be replicated.

We all feel envy at what FFG's most highly-promoted games get to enjoy. Yet we still got the campaign set, they didn't, and we will (some day!) get the biggest miniature you've ever seen when the SSD comes out.

If there is a problem, it's that Armada has unfair expectations set before it. It seems like it's not enough to be a successful game, it has to be a global phenomenon. Is it hard to break even when you pay licensing to Disney and Lucasfilm? Is it embarrassing to put up lower sales than X-Wing? (Armada isn't going to be an X-Wing killer, much less a 40K killer.) Does it have to be an ever-accelerating moonshot of ever-mounting success?

Let's take a second and appreciate that, through the good times and bad, the Armada community is still here . And the game is still in print . And the parent company is still putting out stuff (slowly... so excruciatingly slowly). AllWingsStandyingBy mentioned a few other miniatures games in the fleet genre. Those, and a whole bunch of other miniatures games have come and gone since 2015, and Armada outlived them. You'll find those other games in the clearance section of Miniatures Market, but not on the shelf next to Armada.

I have mentioned before, I'd love to get some Halo model's for some friendly Armada... maybe from @melminiatures ? I'd love to throw some money for a massive Infinity to use as a SSD maybe? A lot of the imperial ships would work very well as Halo ships actually.

Perhaps the solution is to support a Smash Bros style ruleset for Armada, with Rebel Alliance v Empire v Covenant v UNSC.

On 3/4/2019 at 10:01 PM, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

It's been done, I'm afraid:





Sadly, like pretty much every other non-SWArmada table-top fleet battle game (Firestorm Armada, Dystopian Wars, Dropfleet Commander, etc.) it was around for about two years then crashed.

Spartan Games has gone out of business. I am certain this model range is discontinued.

https://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/spartan-games-is-closing

Sorry for the necto thread, was searching the off topic for any posts about Halo MCC on PC.

On ‎3‎/‎6‎/‎2019 at 4:39 PM, Nostromoid said:

Let's take a second and appreciate that, through the good times and bad, the Armada community is still here . And the game is still in print . And the parent company is still putting out stuff (slowly... so excruciatingly slowly). AllWingsStandyingBy mentioned a few other miniatures games in the fleet genre. Those, and a whole bunch of other miniatures games have come and gone since 2015, and Armada outlived them. You'll find those other games in the clearance section of Miniatures Market, but not on the shelf next to Armada.

1979 called, mumbled somethingsomething whippersnappers something lawn....

I for one was sad to see Spartan fail. I really liked the idea (never got to play) of Firestorm and Halo Fleet Battles.

I came into the fleet miniatures game after AA War at Sea was dead, and right as Halo Fleet Battles was dying. I never saw either in any gaming store. I DID see X-Wing and Armada though, which is why I have both

4 hours ago, FortyInRed said:

I for one was sad to see Spartan fail. I really liked the idea (never got to play) of Firestorm and Halo Fleet Battles.

I came into the fleet miniatures game after AA War at Sea was dead, and right as Halo Fleet Battles was dying. I never saw either in any gaming store. I DID see X-Wing and Armada though, which is why I have both

I actually got a box of the halo stuff lying around somewhere.

On 4/8/2019 at 10:30 PM, xanderf said:

1979 called, mumbled somethingsomething whippersnappers something lawn....

Ha, my father actually played this game. I was born in 85 (him in 60), I faintly remember that he had a shadow box with these models hanging on a wall for a while. I feel like he played romulans though.

1 hour ago, dominosfleet said:

Ha, my father actually played this game. I was born in 85 (him in 60), I faintly remember that he had a shadow box with these models hanging on a wall for a while. I feel like he played romulans though.

Not those exact ships, though - these are newer models from their current Starline 2500 (IIRC) series. But, yeah, same people. The company that made 'Star Fleet Battles' is definitely still around - definitely still putting out ships and supplements for it - and even spun it off into a somewhat-more-accessible version in the 'Federation Commander' games.