When I perform a target lock action, I am permitted to measure range, within range 3, of my ship.
However, am I permitted to specifically measure if a ship is in arc. I'm ok with the obvious cases... But am I permitted, during TL measuring, to get down and examine the borderline cases to see if they are in arc?
Thanks!
you can lock objects that are outside of your firing arc, so yes, you can measure there too
What I mean...can I use the TL measuring to determine if a ship is in arc.
Specifically, can I line up my range rulers along the arc edge of my ship and see if another ship is in range?
No, the wording is specific:
" To measure range between two objects, place the range ruler over the point of the first object that is closest to the second object, then aim the other end of the ruler toward the point of the second object that is closest to the first object."
3 hours ago, svelok said:No, the wording is specific:
" To measure range between two objects, place the range ruler over the point of the first object that is closest to the second object, then aim the other end of the ruler toward the point of the second object that is closest to the first object."
Quote from the Rules Reference (1.0.2) page 14, bottom right
Agree with the above answers by @svelok and @nitrobenz ... you can't measure whether a ship is in or out of your firing arc, unless you're using an ability that requires you to check for an arc (or, of course, attacking).
That doesn't mean you can't gain some in-game information by measuring range to something past the target that IS in line with your arc, or by measuring range precisely, and visually analyzing whether the angle of your template matches the angle of your base arc. Such actions start to get into territory that some players consider unethical or unsportsmanlike, though, so I wouldn't recommend it unless you have a REALLY good reason to do so.
23 hours ago, svelok said:No, the wording is specific:
" To measure range between two objects, place the range ruler over the point of the first object that is closest to the second object, then aim the other end of the ruler toward the point of the second object that is closest to the first object."
You could easily check your arc lines with a lock action and still fall within this rule. It's important to remember the following rule under the lock action, which many people get mixed up about.
QuoteLOCK
1. Measure range from the locking ship to any number of objects.
You could just find an object on the board in which the line connecting your closest points happens to line up with your firing arc line. Also the only way to accurately determine what the 2 closest points between 2 objects are, ironically, is to measure multiple lines between them. The human eyes are not good instruments of exact measurement and I have seen multiple cases of players incorrectly determining the closest points between 2 ships because they didn't actually measure both.
Now I'm not saying you can just say LOCK and then just put a ruler down along your firing arc, no. But if you're smart, you should be able to DERIVE what objects are in your arc by measuring to them and to other objects that are along a similar trajectory. Now, if it does just happen that between your ship's arc line and the edge of the board there are no objects to measure to, then I'd say your SOL and would tell you to knock it off if you were trying to measure range to nothing.