19 hours ago, nikk whyte said:

common sense OBVIOUSLY does not apply to everyone the same way, which is half the issue.

making any kind of assumptions, like when people loved to claim that dash's ability was always active, is a bad idea in a discussion about rules. You cant assume anything, because there are other ways to do it.

I have seen suggestions that one should roll the offending die again, as well as suggestions that all dice should be rolled again together. However, both involve rerolling, which you seem to claim is not a common sense conclusion for everyone. What alternatives do you see that don't involve throwing any dice again?

I've yet to see the OP, the person who is "hesitant" about granting the re-roll, speak to an alternative solution.

If you don't have a solution, and just want to argue with everyone else about how they handle the situation, I'm not really sure what the objective of this topic is.

meanwhile, i'm just reading this thread like

4 hours ago, nikk whyte said:

common sense OBVIOUSLY does not apply to everyone the same way, which is half the issue.

making any kind of assumptions, like when people loved to claim that dash's ability was always active, is a bad idea in a discussion about rules. You cant assume anything, because there are other ways to do it.

I mean, where I'm from, we reroll cocked dice.

But this makes a bunch of sense. Having something to point to to ensure that all cocked dice are handled the same way is good. Presuming that gamers have common sense is bad.

1 minute ago, theBitterFig said:

Presuming that gamers have common sense is bad.

Common Sense... isn't common.

4 hours ago, kempokid said:

I've yet to see the OP, the person who is "hesitant" about granting the re-roll, speak to an alternative solution.

If you don't have a solution, and just want to argue with everyone else about how they handle the situation, I'm not really sure what the objective of this topic is.

the objective of this topic is to put a procedure for handling crooked dice rolls in the rules. which part of that wasn't clear?

4 hours ago, JJ48 said:

I have seen suggestions that one should roll the offending die again, as well as suggestions that all dice should be rolled again together. However, your both involve rerolling, which you seem to claim is not a common sense conclusion for everyone. What alternatives do you see that don't involve throwing any dice again?

i have no problem rerolling dice provided that is in the rules.

4 minutes ago, nikk whyte said:

the objective of this topic is to put a procedure for handling crooked dice rolls in the rules. which part of that wasn't clear?

So what, are we all supposed to vote on it here in your forum post? Are we going to write our own procedure in a Google Doc?

On 2/26/2019 at 3:04 PM, nikk whyte said:

so many people do not know that the cocked die rule from 1st edition didn't make the transition to 2nd. they just reach down, and roll the die again. i'm extremely hesitant to grant a fresh roll to anything when the rules dont explicitly allow it.

yes. they don't care and do it anyway, also expecting the other player to treat dice in the same manner, because it's standard practice for dice games.

it's a shame that you're hesitant. please post and official rules query to FFG through their homepage. i'll agree that it'd be good if how to handle dice when playing x-wing was described in the rules.

52 minutes ago, kempokid said:

So what, are we all supposed to vote on it here in your forum post? Are we going to write our own procedure in a Google Doc?

oh i gotta explain the whole thing to you, cool.

rules questions get answered in the rules thread, right at the top of the top of the rules question subthread. and even though you want to condescend at me about it, you bumping the post count and page number reallllllly goes a long way to making sure a rule regarding this hits the books again.

1 hour ago, nikk whyte said:

the objective of this topic is to put a procedure for handling crooked dice rolls in the rules. which part of that wasn't clear?

none of it. you didn't write it in the OP. i recommend you make an effort to express yourself cleary and that you're more descriptive of your confusion and recommendations when posting in these forums. that way, you'll get better answers.

1 minute ago, nikk whyte said:

oh i gotta explain the whole thing to you, cool.

rules questions get answered in the rules thread, right at the top of the top of the rules question subthread. and even though you want to condescend at me about it, you bumping the post count and page number reallllllly goes a long way to making sure a rule regarding this hits the books again.

ffg doesn't answer posts in this forum, no. this is where players discuss the rules.

7 minutes ago, meffo said:

ffg doesn't answer posts in this forum, no. this is where players discuss the rules.

they absolutely answer rules questions in this forum, next.

they don't answer posts in this thread , which you'll note isn't where i said they answer rules questions.

Just now, nikk whyte said:

they absolutely answer rules questions in this forum, next.

no, they don't. do you have an example of a thread they do it in? they have a pinned post. those questions are from the customer service contact form. it can be found here:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/more/contact/

2 minutes ago, nikk whyte said:

they absolutely answer rules questions in this forum, next.

lol they've updated that forum once since October.

But hey. If they address this thanks to you posting it and me helping you get views, more power to you.

I just don't care for how you've gone about treating the community who are contributing (and you think the same thing about me if you want).

i dare say you are quite rude and ignorant, @nikk whyte . if you want to know something, just ask. there are plenty of people here willing to answer and help you.

ffg does not answer threads in this forum. only other players here, i'm afraid.

5 minutes ago, meffo said:

i dare say you are quite rude and ignorant. if you want to know something, just ask. there are plenty of people here willing to answer and help you.

ffg does not answer threads in this forum. only other players here, i'm afraid.

friendly reminder that i was called stupid or a troll from nearly the beginning.

if i'm being rude its because i'm responding in kind.

Just now, nikk whyte said:

friendly reminder that i was called stupid or a troll from nearly the beginning.

if i'm being rude its because i'm responding in kind.

so you're following the example of people who you think are rude and ignorant? that's very rude and ignorant indeed.

dont pretend i wasnt ridiculed from go for daring to state that something that wasnt common for most of the life of 1st edition wasnt common and needed to be included in the rules.

I will eat all 6 of my HWK-290s if FFG actually responds to this thread with anything besides a lock-notice. This really is just something that, compared to actual game interactions, shouldn’t need a response; as its been stated this is just basic gaming etiquette.

Just now, nikk whyte said:

dont pretend i wasnt ridiculed from go for daring to state that something that wasnt common for most of the life of 1st edition wasnt common and needed to be included in the rules.

except that's not what you stated. read it again. it only states your opionion on most players being ignorant and you hesitation to do what most players view as standard practice.

maybe you should simply have stated that you've noticed there are no rules describing how dice should be handled and that you believe it would be a very good thing if it was included, so as to avoid confusion over the board?

1 hour ago, nikk whyte said:

i have no problem rerolling dice provided that is in the rules.

You also don't have any problem dodging the question, it seems.

Has anybody else ever had a sticky hand due to heat building up during the later stages of an event, and had a die go sailing across the room?

What happened?

I grabbed another one and rolled it, while somebody else returned my die to me saying it was the best Crit result they'd seen all day.

Are there, ever, any times where being pedantic will win you friends? Maybe at the annual Pendant Gathering, but, in a game of X-Wing, at any level? Not when it comes to something that is so obvious that, most die based games never bother to address it.

In larger events with higher stakes than a casual game, a certain amount of pedantry is to be expected, because everybody wants to ensure the game is both accurate and fair. However, that is usually reserved for situations such as card interactions with each other or the rules, bumps/obstacles overlaps, or even whether a ship is on or off the board, and, finally, whether there is an arc or not.

It's like the "shaking hands with an opponent before and after a game" thing. While some people may not be comfortable doing it, others are, it's not in the rules, but, an unspoken (usually) rule of sportsmanship.

If you encounter a cocked die in the future, and you don't like the idea of the person who rolled it touching it again, how about their opponent rolling it for them? That should give you fewer head-goblins, if that's the issue.

this has made page 4? wow. impressive.