9 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

Underlined section they ignored.

Hm. I can see reading the RRG as RAW the way I said it, you have to be able to "complete the maneuver" before rotating/shifting forwards or backwards. But the Core Rules is nice and clear there.

You guys have this all wrong. There’s only one explanation here...

EPISODE 2.4:

THE RETURN OF REBEL BIAS

Rebels vs. Rebels in the finals. A guaranteed victory!

1 minute ago, SpiderMana said:

Hm. I can see reading the RRG as RAW the way I said it, you have to be able to "complete the maneuver" before rotating/shifting forwards or backwards. But the Core Rules is nice and clear there.

The maneuver is a Tallon Roll so bumping would only happen if none of the 3 possible final positions resulted in an overlap.

1 minute ago, Hiemfire said:

The maneuver is a Tallon Roll so bumping would only happen if none of the 3 possible final positions resulted in an overlap.

I understand that. I'm saying reading the Rules Reference alone I can understand how the TO could come to that conclusion RAW.

1 minute ago, dadocollin said:

You guys have this all wrong. There’s only one explanation here...

EPISODE 2.3:

THE RETURN OF REBEL BIAS

Rebels vs. Rebels in the finals. A guaranteed victory!

Their interpretation should affect X-Wings and B-Wings as well. If the Marshal rules differently for either of those then I'll give your, albeit joking, supposition some weight. Right now I'm leaning more towards a fatigue induced mistake.

2 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

The maneuver is a Tallon Roll so bumping would only happen if none of the 3 possible final positions resulted in an overlap.

That’s how I read it too. Unfortunately this happened in a top 4 game, in a System Open, where it likely may have impacted the final result of the game.

However, Marshalls do their best and will make mistakes.

2 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

Their interpretation should affect X-Wings and B-Wings as well. If the Marshal rules differently for either of those then I'll give your, albeit joking, supposition some weight. Right now I'm leaning more towards a fatigue induced mistake.

This is what I get for going out to lunch with my wife. I just missed this by the time I got the stream back up at home!

1 minute ago, arctic_rogue said:

That’s how I read it too. Unfortunately this happened in a top 4 game, in a System Open, where it likely may have impacted the final result of the game.

However, Marshalls do their best and will make mistakes.

I'm leaning towards this. Second day of a big event so they've got to be a bit tired.

1 minute ago, dadocollin said:

This is what I get for going out to lunch with my wife. I just missed this by the time I got the stream back up at home!

Dude, going out to lunch with the sigi should always top watching people pushing things around a table. These events are recorded so can always be watched later, time with your life partner is priceless.

1 minute ago, Hiemfire said:

I'm leaning towards this. Second day of a big event so they've got to be a bit tired.

Big time.

It’s unfortunate that it happened. Unfortunate for both guys involved in that game, especially Marc. However, it is what it is.

On a positive note, it didn’t impact someone getting or not getting a worlds invite.

Rose vs Wong is the final.

Peter Rose:

"Zeb" Orrelios + Leia Organa
Blue Squadron Escort + Servomotor S-foils
Blue Squadron Escort + Servomotor S-foils
Blue Squadron Pilot + Jamming Beam
Blue Squadron Pilot + Jamming Beam

Calen Wong:

Bandit Squadron Pilot
Bandit Squadron Pilot
Bandit Squadron Pilot
Partisan Renegade + Leia Organa + Tactical Officer + Pivot Wing
Blue Squadron Pilot + Jamming Beam + Tractor Beam
Blue Squadron Escort + Servomotor S-foils

Just now, arctic_rogue said:

Big time.

It’s unfortunate that it happened. Unfortunate for both guys involved in that game, especially Marc. However, it is what it is.

On a positive note, it didn’t impact someone getting or not getting a worlds invite.

There is definitely that silver lining.

Wow... Peter made a dial error and conceded before shots were even fired. I feel for him.

Calen Wong is the Toronto champ.

Ouch. Peter Rose misdialed a 2 hard and flew a B-Wing off the table by accident and conceded.

Just now, dadocollin said:

Wow... Peter made a dial error and conceded before shots were even fired. I feel for him.

Calen Wong is the Toronto champ.

Here come a number of people blaming Calen for not allowing him to take the move back... 🙄

Just now, The Penguin UK said:

Here come a number of people blaming Calen for not allowing him to take the move back... 🙄

Peter Rose made that call. Not Calen.

Just now, The Penguin UK said:

Here come a number of people blaming Calen for not allowing him to take the move back... 🙄

Hope not.

Well that just happened

6 minutes ago, The Penguin UK said:

Here come a number of people blaming Calen for not allowing him to take the move back... 🙄

With flight and lodging for worlds on the line, I doubt there are many who would have let him take it back. He still gets all the other prizes and a ticket to worlds.

I think he actually may have set TWO dials wrong for both B-wings. I think only one would have actually flown off, but the other would have been well out of position.

I would hate to win in this way, but on the other hand Calen had every right to not let Peter correct that mistake.

Just for the record, as I brought it up, I also think Calen shouldn't let him have taken it back - not in the finals of a System Open!

I too would hate to win this way!

1 minute ago, Revanxv said:

I would hate to win in this way, but on the other hand Calen had every right to not let Peter correct that mistake.

Given the fact that there was $$ (flight and accommodations) on the line, I would have done the exact same as Calen.

Meanwhile in Hyperspace land, after three rounds, seven undefeated 3-0 lists remain:

4 Rebel, 1 Empire, 2 Resistance

The Upsilon bogeymen have been slain.

3 minutes ago, dadocollin said:

Meanwhile in Hyperspace land, after three rounds, seven undefeated 3-0 lists remain:

3 Rebel, 2 Empire, 2 Resistance

The Upsilon bogeymen have been slain.

Where are the lists? BCP?

It's interesting to see B-Wings back in a big way. Was not expecting that at all