Predictions for Toronto

By dadocollin, in X-Wing

11 minutes ago, svelok said:

In Hyperspace or Extended context?

I ask because basically nobody brought Boba to the system open. I didn't get as close of a look at the qualifier.

Well, it kind of works for both contexts - they're ok vs Y-Wings in either format but also not good enough to be seen often on the table in either format.

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14 minutes ago, svelok said:

In Hyperspace or Extended context?

I ask because basically nobody brought Boba to the system open. I didn't get as close of a look at the qualifier.

They're all Hyperspace legal, but I'm not making claims about whether they're good enough against the Extended field. I think Boba is absolutely fine in Hyperspace given the direction of the meta, and Extended seems to be heading in a similar direction.

Almost feels a bit like Y-Wings were a bit over-corrected in their point costs. A VTG Y-Wing going down 5 points (1 Y, 2 VTG, 2 Turret) in The Adjustment is HUGE, and probably only needed to go down like 4 points.

12 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Almost feels a bit like Y-Wings were a bit over-corrected in their point costs. A VTG Y-Wing going down 5 points (1 Y, 2 VTG, 2 Turret) in The Adjustment is HUGE, and probably only needed to go down like 4 points.

I can't help but wonder if VTG was changed mainly for bowtie turret ships. Sometimes it seems like it should be an inherent ability to having a bowtie.

Dorsal, I think, was always meant to be near auto-include? There's literally a turret on the Y-Wing model, after all.

26 minutes ago, svelok said:

I can't help but wonder if VTG was changed mainly for bowtie turret ships. Sometimes it seems like it should be an inherent ability to having a bowtie.

Dorsal, I think, was always meant to be near auto-include? There's literally a turret on the Y-Wing model, after all.

Maybe. But there was the old BTL-A4 title in 1e, which gave primary/turret double taps. I kinda feel like they wanted Y-Wings to have this capacity.

But the pricing is awkward. I kinda feel like 6 points is maybe still too expensive for a VTG on a YT-1300 or YT-2400, and something like 4 points (Veteran Tail Gunner) might see play. However, 6 points maybe feels too cheap when you're able to double-tap front.

1 minute ago, theBitterFig said:

Maybe. But there was the old BTL-A4 title in 1e, which gave primary/turret double taps. I kinda feel like they wanted Y-Wings to have this capacity.

But the pricing is awkward. I kinda feel like 6 points is maybe still too expensive for a VTG on a YT-1300 or YT-2400, and something like 4 points (Veteran Tail Gunner) might see play. However, 6 points maybe feels too cheap when you're able to double-tap front.

I think you're completely correct.

I wonder if there's a possibility that FFG will errata this card to not allow the front double tap - but create another that specifically does it that also maybe locks the turret forward. That card can then be costed separately because as you say, the capability is totally different on the different types of turrets.

Hey did anyone who went to Toronto (or another system open this year) happen to have a "faulty" damage deck (the white/red back rebel themed one)? I'm asking because I got one that's complete except missing one "hull breach". I'm not bothered bc it was an extra one that somehow made it to me, anyway ( so it would be silly for me to ask them to replace my spare bonus prize). But I'm asking because I'm either looking for someone who also has a defective deck and could spare the hull breach, or someone who needs a card from mine to fill out their deck. Thanks!

3 minutes ago, Ablazoned said:

Hey did anyone who went to Toronto (or another system open this year) happen to have a "faulty" damage deck (the white/red back rebel themed one)? I'm asking because I got one that's complete except missing one "hull breach". I'm not bothered bc it was an extra one that somehow made it to me, anyway ( so it would be silly for me to ask them to replace my spare bonus prize). But I'm asking because I'm either looking for someone who also has a defective deck and could spare the hull breach, or someone who needs a card from mine to fill out their deck. Thanks!

I had not heard about this. I somehow doubt it, but I can double check tonight. I just threw it in my bag and continued on.

1 hour ago, Max Teranous said:

I think you're completely correct.

I wonder if there's a possibility that FFG will errata this card to not allow the front double tap - but create another that specifically does it that also maybe locks the turret forward. That card can then be costed separately because as you say, the capability is totally different on the different types of turrets.

It'd be a lot cleaner to do it the other way around.

Leave Veteran Turret Gunner the same in text, maybe increase to 7 or 8 points. Create a new gunner like Ball Turret Gunner or something who requires a double-end turret and triggers only from double-end attacks.

37 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

I  had not heard about this. I somehow doubt it, but I can double check tonight  . I just threw it in my bag and continued on.

It happens from time to time with all promo decks. Not a big deal and if you notice the day of the event they'll fix it for you

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Just now, Ablazoned said:

It happens from time to time with all promo decks. Not a big deal and if you notice the day of the event they'll fix it for you

Meh, I have a lot of damage decks for 2.0. (remember the screams for the TFA damage deck? I don't!) Not sure I'll ever use this one, to be honest so an error is less impact. I'm too lazy to ebay stuff.

3 hours ago, Ablazoned said:

Hey did anyone who went to Toronto (or another system open this year) happen to have a "faulty" damage deck (the white/red back rebel themed one)? I'm asking because I got one that's complete except missing one "hull breach". I'm not bothered bc it was an extra one that somehow made it to me, anyway ( so it would be silly for me to ask them to replace my spare bonus prize). But I'm asking because I'm either looking for someone who also has a defective deck and could spare the hull breach, or someone who needs a card from mine to fill out their deck. Thanks!

My son and I each got one at PAX. One was right, the other had an extra Direct Hit. Glad I counted and didn't play with that one!

Edited by dadocollin