7 minutes ago, SpiderMana said:

I guess maybe he could have to have Dooku there, if this is the case? I wasn't aware of that specific contract.

"I work for Darth Tyranus." during his conversation with Obi'Won coupled with how he acted during the battle on Geonosis (only dealing with direct threats to his ward until Dooku released him to engage directly) kinda sets that in ferrocrete.

i'm not saying its perfect, i'm saying that for literally all his screen time, jango is working for the seperatists.

means we get a jango colored firespray model and more cards to be released into factions they werent originally, which of course means everyone will hate it.

scum already has a firespray with multiple pilots. doubt they would give the faction a second. All the current Falcons are in separate factions. If Jango's Slave one is coming, it will be CIS. but it would be cool to have something that let's it cross over like some of the current cards do (Maul, 000, etc.)

Anyway, that's my guess and opinion.

13 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

There's a lot of niche ships which would be kind of awkward for general release. I'll say again: a cool middle ground would be specialized quick builds.

Only hard thing is the token. Shuttle Tyderium is the best example. Han Solo flying a Lambda is the kind of thing which probably shouldn't really in the standard game, but a special card and token are all you'd need, and folks could play a lot of their favorite ships. In some format, at least.

I thought Chewie was flying it.

6 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

"I work for Darth Tyranus." during his conversation with Obi'Won coupled with how he acted during the battle on Geonosis (only dealing with direct threats to his ward until Dooku released him to engage directly) kinda sets that in ferrocrete.

Well. Yeah, Dooku is probably the one who directly hired him. That follows along with the fact that Dooku ordered the clones from the Kaminoans under the guise of a dead Jedi. This was his big project.

I don’t think he was contracted as Dooku’s bodyguard so much as just... he worked for the Separatist leader. Which would generally mean he works for the Separatists.

1 minute ago, PanchoX1 said:

scum already has a firespray with multiple pilots. doubt they would give the faction a second. All the current Falcons are in separate factions. If Jango's Slave one is coming, it will be CIS. but it would be cool to have something that let's it cross over like some of the current cards do (Maul, 000, etc.)

Anyway, that's my guess and opinion.

I wouldn’t count it out. It’s 1e now, so not exactly precedent, but the Rebel/Resistance Falcons were in the same faction for a long time. Prequel scum isn’t going to become a separate faction, so I could see them having some overlap similar to having resistance be part of the rebellion originally.

11 minutes ago, nikk whyte said:

....which of course means everyone will hate it.

Liked for this part, because I think we both agree no matter what the decision people will want heads to roll...

21 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

I thought Chewie was flying it.

Just like the Falcon, Chewie has always done all the real work.

26 minutes ago, SpiderMana said:

That follows along with the fact that Dooku ordered the clones from the Kaminoans under the guise of a dead Jedi. This was his big project.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sifo-Dyas

3 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sifo-Dyas

Yeah him.

Wow I definitely got the impression that Dooku ordered the clones himself, using Dyas' name. Huh.

It will be difficult adding him to the game. If you add him to Scum, which fits his backstory, then you add another pilot to a pre-existing ship. That would require a card pack or calling his Slave 1 a different ship type than Boba's, and who else do you get for that ship? If you add him to Separatists, which fits his contract nicely, then who else do you add for the ship? Child Boba and maybe some auto-pilot? Make it so that you can field no more than 1 Separatist Slave 1 at a time? (And to those who object to him being on Separatists, may I point out that Darth Maul is entering the game on behalf of the Separatists, even though he was just Sidious' tool and had no interest in trade disputes and the Republic? Does this not sound a little like Jango being Dooku's tool and having little vested interest in planetary revolutions and the Republic? Come one, let the new faction grow if FFG finds a way. Scum, on the other hand, is the catch-all faction: their job is to get whatever stuff that can't fit into the other factions. Currently, the designers are doing a good job of handling it without giving them a bloated depth chart.)

I do expect FFG to release the Jano Slave-1. As a ship they already have the mold for, a simple repaint is basically free money from their perspective.

It will certainly be a Separatist Ship. Unlike the bounty hunters of ESB, who were merely hired to find Solo, Jango was on the payroll of the Separtists and fought multiple battles with them against the Republic. Also, the Separatists were an eclectic mix of individuals, including many mercenaries and bounty hunters often serving as their field commanders (e.g. Durge, Cad Bane, etc.), unlike the monolithic Empire that we never see fight alongside mercenary scum. This makes Jango, from the game's perspective, clearly a Separatist. Did Jango exist as an independent mercenary who took odd jobs and lived life on his own path? Sure, but the Jango we see onscreen is 100% an employee of the Separatists. Just like Han exists as a drifter loner (Scum Han) and a rebel hero (Rebel Han), but the only Jango we ever see is Separatist Agent Jango.

If the Firespray didn't already exist in the Scum faction, I think there'd be a strong case for it to be a Scum ship, but the scum Firespray hardly needs new pilots or a new paint job, whereas the Firespray would offer the Separatists one of their few remaining crew-carrying ships (the only other, off hand, being the small-based Neimodian Shuttle).

2 hours ago, Dwing said:

... Clone Wars bounty hunters should be released for Scum. Seperatists could get a crew that allows them to buy certain Scum bounty hunters, like how 000 and Maul are crossing factions.

Durge.

Sing.

Zam.

Could be interesting...Seps and Scum only.

18 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

I do expect FFG to release the Jano Slave-1. As a ship they already have the mold for, a simple repaint is basically free money from their perspective.

It will certainly be a Separatist Ship. Unlike the bounty hunters of ESB, who were merely hired to find Solo, Jango was on the payroll of the Separtists and fought multiple battles with them against the Republic. Also, the Separatists were an eclectic mix of individuals, including many mercenaries and bounty hunters often serving as their field commanders (e.g. Durge, Cad Bane, etc.), unlike the monolithic Empire that we never see fight alongside mercenary scum. This makes Jango, from the game's perspective, clearly a Separatist.

If the Firespray didn't already exist in the Scum faction, I think there'd be a strong case for it to be a Scum ship, but the scum Firespray hardly needs new pilots or a new paint job, whereas the Firespray would offer the Separatists one of their few remaining crew-carrying ships (the only other, off hand, being the small-based Neimodian Shuttle).

Crew ships you say?

EDIT - deleted one, forgot it was an airspeeder...

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/H-2_executive_shuttle

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Maxillipede_shuttle

Less than other factions (they mainly used large transports to move battle droids, and droid ships of course didn't need a crew), but they definitely have some options. I see why some would want Jango's ship for Separatists, but it would be strange NOT having him in scum... Maybe a both option as others have mentioned, I mean they have TIEs for 3 factions already (4 if you count First Order).

I like that this thread turned into a little debate about Jango's faction. Lots of good arguments for both, and if ever there were a pilot who belonged on two factions, I'd say it's Jango. Even if he wasn't a card carrying separatist, the only reason we know who he is at all is because of the work he did for them in the movies, so they seem like a good fit. That said, he's a bounty hunter through and through, so Scum would be a logical fit as well. I don't actually play either faction, so I'm gonna say my preference would be to see Slave 1 with Jango's paint job released for the CIS. Since we now have the YT-1300 on three factions, with each version featuring tweaked stats, action bars, dials, etc. it would be cool to see another ship get a similar treatment. The Firespray is the best candidate I can think of, personally. I think this ship would be a good addition to CIS just because it gives them more fleshy pilots to lead their swarms, on top of being a flavor match in my eyes.

I get the apprehension, and the Scum purists wanting him on their faction, since he really does belong there. I doubt FFG will do like they did with the Scurrg in 1st ed and do a multi faction expansion, so if Jango comes to one faction, he is unlikely to enter the other quickly, if at all. If I had to pick only one faction for him to get thrown into, I'd prefer CIS purely for game reasons.

Are we completely forgetting the Sheathipede? That thing is going to be bonkers good for Separatists.

32 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

a simple repaint is basically free money from their perspective.

Has a lower investment cost since the sculpting for the Firespray has already been done and they only have to pay out for the designing of the paint job (readily available references makes this fairly easy but it still would need to be done), the painting of the minis themselves, packaging, pilot/upgrade card development and printing of the cards. Shaves off one set of steps if they don't do a resculpt.

32 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Unlike the bounty hunters of ESB, who were merely hired to find Solo, Jango was on the payroll of the Separtists and fought multiple battles with them against the Republic.

He was also technically on the pay role of the Cloners (and through them the Republic) though that pay out centered on the creation of Boba and a room to bunk in.

32 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Did Jango exist as an independent mercenary who took odd jobs and lived life on his own path? Sure, but the Jango we see onscreen is 100% an employee of the Separatists. 

The Separatists didn't exist till a day at most before he died fighting Mace. He was Dooku's agent.

5 minutes ago, SpiderMana said:

Are we completely forgetting the Sheathipede? That thing is going to be bonkers good for Separatists.

Nah, AllWings called it the Neimodian  Shuttle  for some reason, even though it's in the game as the more properly named Sheathipede.

EDIT: Link - https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sheathipede-class_transport_shuttle

12 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

The Separatists didn't exist till a day at most before he died fighting Mace. He was Dooku's agent.

LOLZ if you think that FFG's X-Wing is going to differentiate between Trade Federation, CIS, Separatists, etc. ...

11 minutes ago, imprezagoatee said:

Nah, AllWings called it the Neimodian  Shuttle  for some reason, even though it's in the game as the more properly named Sheathipede.

EDIT: Link - https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sheathipede-class_transport_shuttle

Because that is what it was called before Rebels came out.

1 minute ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

LOLZ if you think that FFG's X-Wing is going to differentiate between Trade Federation, CIS, Separatists, etc. …

Laugh all you want, it fits what they've been doing so far in 2.0.

14 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

LOLZ if you think that FFG's X-Wing is going to differentiate between Trade Federation, CIS, Separatists, etc. ...

New factions: CONFIRMED!

28 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

Because that is what it was called before Rebels came out.

Ah, I wouldn't know, barely noticed it's existence before Rebels. I had to google it.

I still think they should have made it so Schm ships are usable in either faction.

2 hours ago, Hiemfire said:

Because that is what it was called before Rebels came out.

No it wasn't, it's always had a proper name. People call it a Neimoidian Shuttle because it is a Neimoidian shuttle.