I know I'm late to the party but I was under the impression that only the expansions in "Wave 1" would be just cards from the Conversion Kits. I ask because I'm wondering if I should buy some ships like the 1st edition Quadjumper (which is on sale now for 50% off) or wait for a second edition Quadjumper expansion? Will ANY of the re-releases contain "new" cards not found in Conversion Kits?

So far they haven’t. That’s all we know for sure.

So far it appears mostly true?

BT-1 and 000 were in the scum conversion kit but are being released for imperial players in the decimator.

it looks like the b-wing has an upgrade cannon not seen in the conversion kit. But perhaps will be available in other rebel products?

They've said that re-released ships won't contain new cards. So far, that has been true (for example: the upcoming B-wing has no new cards, even though the resistance transport in the same wave has a new torp and a new cannon).

They've also said that you won't need to buy ships out-of faction to get access to generic upgrades, BUT not all factions will get upgrades at the same time. Technically this statement can't be false unless 2.0 ends before all factions get all the generic upgrades. Unfortunately, "no new cards in re-released ships" means that rebels, imperials and scum could have to wait a fair while for the new cannon and torpedo. However, FFG are clearly making some effort here - 000 and BT-1 are available along with Darth Vader in the Decimator expansion, even though they were previously only in the scum conversion kit.

tl;dr buy a 1.0 quadjumper

Thank you all. I believe this answers my question.

A more general reason to wait for a 2.0 version of a ship would be if the new model is appealing to you, for example a new paint job or cool articulation ala the new X-Wings and soon B-Wings. But in the Quad's case i doubt that will apply 🤣

8 hours ago, TylerTT said:

it  looks  like the b-wing has an upgrade cannon not seen in the conversion kit. But perhaps will be available in other rebel produ  c  ts?

Nope, just HLC, ion, and jamming.

The new cannon with B-Wing art (same art as Autoblaster from 1e) is available in the Resistance Transport.

I was also thinking about picking up the 1.0 Decimator now that the contents for 2.0 have been spoiled. If anything, it looks like the color scheme for the 2.0 model is slightly more blue than grey. Can't tell for sure, though. Also, the 2.0 comes with a Proximity Mine template, which is always nice to have more of just in case.

The promise was that people who owned ships from 1.0 wouldn't have to rebuy those ships to get new content if they bought the conversion kits.

I'm glad FFG is at least sticking to that promise so far.

12 minutes ago, Tvboy said:

The promise was that people who owned ships from 1.0 wouldn't have to rebuy those ships to get new content if they bought the conversion kits.

I'm glad FFG is at least sticking to that promise so far.

Yeah, well... Now you can't get the new content even if you do... See the possible Plasma Torpedo & Mangler Cannon reprints...

2 minutes ago, ryfterek said:

Yeah, well... Now you can't get the new content even if you do... See the possible Plasma Torpedo & Mangler Cannon reprints...

Yeah, that's the promise that I wish FFG had stuck to. But not enough players seem to care enough.

3 minutes ago, Tvboy said:

Yeah, that's the promise that I wish FFG had stuck to. But not enough players seem to care enough.

That's a two edge sword and you may get me wrong - I do admire that they are not releasing a new, extraordinary B-wing pilot I will have to buy a third B to lay my hands on.

At the same time, I'm moderately pissed that with new generic upgrades being released, as an exclusively Rebel player, there is just no way for me to get them 4th wave.

If I have to buy something to get them, I'd rather have it be this third B-wing than something completely out of faction.

If I were not so faction-locked as I am, I wouldn't HAVE to buy the B to grab new cards as I would get them through some other expansion of the wave - so they would keep their promises after all.

11 minutes ago, TheMate said:

That's a two edge sword and you may get me wrong - I do admire that they are not releasing a new, extraordinary B-wing pilot I will have to buy a third B to lay my hands on.

At the same time, I'm moderately pissed that with new generic upgrades being released, as an exclusively Rebel player, there is just no way for me to get them 4th wave.

If I have to buy something to get them, I'd rather have it be this third B-wing than something completely out of faction.

If I were not so faction-locked as I am, I wouldn't HAVE to buy the B to grab new cards as I would get them through some other expansion of the wave - so they would keep their promises after all.

Yeah, well, the Resistance transport, which you'll have to buy 4x of for Autoblasters, which are going to bring about the Bwing meta (oh god please), is like 30% Bwing. Does that make you feel better?

21 minutes ago, prauxim said:

Yeah, well, the Resistance transport, which you'll have to buy 4x of for Autoblasters, which are going to bring about the Bwing meta (oh god please), is like 30% Bwing. Does that make you feel better?

Are we 100% sure it's not faction locked yet? Like Heroic?

1 hour ago, TheMate said:

Yeah, well... Now you can't get the new content even if you do... See the possible Plasma Torpedo & Mangler Cannon reprints...

I'm still holding out hope for a pack around the one-year mark that'll have all the generic upgrades introduced in the last year. Every wave would be a bit much, but annually, there should be enough there to justify a pack.

Things could be temporarily faction locked for hyper space format.

6 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

I'm still holding out hope for a pack around the one-year mark that'll have all the generic upgrades introduced in the last year. Every wave would be a bit much, but annually, there should be enough there to justify a pack.

I’m guessing we will get squadron packs for the old factions that let them catch up

36 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

Are we 100% sure it's not faction locked yet? Like Heroic?

Nope, all we know it that it is a cannon with the same image as the old 1.0 autoblasters upgrade.

39 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

Are we 100% sure it's not faction locked yet? Like Heroic?

I mean, the art is a B-wing.

Also, there are no faction locked weapons are there? Discord Missiles may be, I think they'd be the first.

31 minutes ago, prauxim said:

I mean, the art is a B-wing.

Also, there are no faction locked weapons are there? Discord Missiles may be, I think they'd be the first.

Energy Shell Charges are (releasing in Wave 3 along side Discord Missiles). Discord Missiles may be (probably are to be honest).

3 hours ago, TheMate said:

That's a two edge sword and you may get me wrong - I do admire that they are not releasing a new, extraordinary B-wing pilot I will have to buy a third B to lay my hands on.

At the same time, I'm moderately pissed that with new generic upgrades being released, as an exclusively Rebel player, there is just no way for me to get them 4th wave.

If I have to buy something to get them, I'd rather have it be this third B-wing than something completely out of faction.

If I were not so faction-locked as I am, I wouldn't HAVE to buy the B to grab new cards as I would get them through some other expansion of the wave - so they would keep their promises after all.

I get what you're saying, it sucks when FFG releases new faction-neutral upgrades and only makes them available in a single faction expansion pack. But at the same time, I think you're framing this as an either/or issue when it doesn't need to be a dichotomy. FFG should be able to find otherways to make these new upgrades available without forcing people to either buy ships they already own or buying outside of their chosen faction. In this specific case the former option just looks more appealing because the B-Wing is getting a fancy new model and paint job, but it would suck just as bad if they rereleased a stock rebel Z-95 that had the new killer missile card in it that worked really well with Rebel Zs and A-Wings.

FFG could solve this issue by just releasing a small conversion kit with each wave that contain 1 or 2 of each new upgrade released in that wave, but it probably didn't show enough profits on a cost/benefit analysis or something.

Well for talking about the quad jumper they haven't announced it in Wave 4 so if you are waiting around for a 2.0 expansion you might be in for a long wait.

That being said there is also the case on formats. So far if you are interested in Extended then there is no need to wait for a 2nd edition if you already have the Scum Conversion kit. However if you want to play Hyperspace, then maybe patience is the better virtue.

I believe it will be re-released in 2.0, but only the Force Ghosts know when. If you really want to play with it NOW or anytime soon (I guess Wave V will come only by October), you'd have to get the 1.0 ship and the scum conversion kit

17 hours ago, Tvboy said:

FFG could solve this issue by just releasing a small conversion kit with each wave that contain 1 or 2 of each new upgrade released in that wave, but it probably didn't show enough profits on a cost/benefit analysis or something.

They could promise some kind of multi-wave card consolidation package to make more sense business wise.