Whither the Rebel snowmen?

By IG-58, in Star Wars: Legion

2 hours ago, KommanderKeldoth said:

Let us make a gentleman's wager then!

I'll wager that if they don't at least announce a rebel corps and a commander in Hoth-style costumes by August I'll **** this **** to the ****ing ground.

Technically one might consider the rebel officer to be in a Hoth uniform though so I'll give them a pass on that till December.

This has been bothering me since they released the Snowtroopers, E-web and Rebel Atgar. Im holding off on two themed armies now. First, Hoth. Missing Rebel troops. (Troopers, Tauntaun mounts, Hoth Leia)

And Second: Endor. Missing EWOKS! Catapults, booby traps.

And now they are adding another themed time: Rogue one. And we are missing Shoretroopers.

These are all huge gaps that are needed filling in order to run thematic scenarios.

9 hours ago, zsavk said:

And now they are adding another themed time: Rogue one. And we are missing Shoretroopers.

As much as I'm sick of [storm]trooper releases for the Empire, shoretroopers would have been way better than deathtroopers. People can and did paint ordinary stormtroopers gloss black and it was close enough for tabletop distance. You could use them to differentiate which squad was loaded up with extra gear and stuff. Much harder to convert convincing shoretroopers.

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These are all huge gaps that are needed filling in order to run thematic scenarios.

I think it's either random and controlled by supply chain issues beyond FFG's control, OR, it's a deliberate marketing tactic.

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9 hours ago, zsavk said:

This has been bothering me since they released the Snowtroopers, E-web and Rebel Atgar. Im holding off on two themed armies now. First, Hoth. Missing Rebel troops. (Troopers, Tauntaun mounts, Hoth Leia)

And Second: Endor. Missing EWOKS! Catapults, booby traps.

And now they are adding another themed time: Rogue one. And we are missing Shoretroopers.

These are all huge gaps that are needed filling in order to run thematic scenarios.

I wouldn't say we're "missing" ewoks

15 hours ago, KommanderKeldoth said:

Let us make a gentleman's wager then!

Alrighty, 10 Republic credits say we'll have the Clone Wars stuff revealed at AdeptiCon, and out by September. Baring any factory fires in China, of course.

1 hour ago, MasterShake2 said:

I wouldn't say we're "missing" ewoks

Lack thereof has kept me from buying Han, Leia, and Rebel Commandos. Why waste my money if I can never complete the army?

That's entirely your own choice.

30 minutes ago, costi said:

That's entirely your own choice.

Yes it is. But for those who want me to spend my money, that's what ewoks mean to me. Lack of ewoks has also kept me from buying scout troopers as well.

2 hours ago, Alpha17 said:

Alrighty, 10 Republic credits say we'll have the Clone Wars stuff revealed at AdeptiCon, and out by September. Baring any factory fires in China, of course.

Republic credits are no good here. Only money!

12 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

Republic credits are no good here. Only money!

(Waves hand)

Credits will do fine.

2 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:

(Waves hand)

Credits will do fine.

No they won't! Only money!

Just now, MasterShake2 said:

No they won't! Only money!

Well, pudoo. Because I am not diving into an overly complicated and annoying plot about winning a pod race in order to pay for the bet.

4 hours ago, Alpha17 said:

Well, pudoo. Because I am not diving into an overly complicated and annoying plot about winning a pod race in order to pay for the bet.

Yeah lets all remember when Qui-Gon tried to scam his way out of paying a small business owner, then made a wager with him to get what he wanted anyway and then cheated at dice to rig the result.

1 hour ago, KommanderKeldoth said:

Yeah lets all remember when Qui-Gon tried to scam his way out of paying a small business owner, then made a wager with him to get what he wanted anyway and then cheated at dice to rig the result.

And, for some reason, everyone decided to leave Anakin's mother in slavery even after their own immediate problems were solved. It's not like it would have been hard for the queen to send a courier from Naboo with some kind of payment.

On 2/22/2019 at 5:27 PM, TauntaunScout said:

And, for some reason, everyone decided to leave Anakin's mother in slavery even after their own immediate problems were solved. It's not like it would have been hard for the queen to send a courier from Naboo with some kind of payment.

Or a force (read: any jedi...like any) capable of freeing her.

24 minutes ago, Derrault said:

Or a force (read: any jedi...like any) capable of freeing her.

Well the jedi can’t have been that good then. See, the empire was better. Slavery was only going to be a temporary thing under Palpatine and was going to be a necessary evil

A couple thoughts:

ROGUE ONE. Well, it's a balanced batch. Just a start, I'm sure. Shoretroopers might have been more practical, but Deathtroopers are cooler. So....

EWOKS. Well, mebbe you're a Hater, but they're absolutely required for an Endor battle recreation. PLUS, you could paint three packs of seven and they'd all be different. To ME, second only to the lack of rebel snowtroops as a 'WTF?!"

I would consider generic tauntaun riders as probably a third. Two pieces, same price point as the E-web or P-Tower.

Guys the games been out 1 year "huge gaps in models" I'm over here hoping they slow down the release schedule, there's so much.

41 minutes ago, DarkTrooperZero said:

Guys the games been out 1 year "huge gaps in models" I'm over here hoping they slow down the release schedule, there's so much.

Easy just don't buy most of it. If they triple the schedule I can buy as few as I want, but I can't personally choose to buy faster than stuff is released.

On 2/23/2019 at 10:06 PM, Jabby said:

Well the jedi can’t have been that good then. See, the empire was better. Slavery was only going to be a temporary thing under Palpatine and was going to be a necessary evil

Considering the droids and the clones are basically treated by the Republic as slaves in The Clone Wars animated series (and basically all the movies), the Empire has to really stretch into the whole Indiscriminate Planet Destruction thing to really ping as evil.

11 minutes ago, Derrault said:

Considering the droids

Droids don't have rights. Neither do any other inanimate objects, no matter how complicated they are.

11 minutes ago, Derrault said:

and the clones are basically treated by the Republic as slaves in The Clone Wars animated series (and basically all the movies),

Didn't Palpatine commission that whole Clone thing? Just a rebranding.

11 minutes ago, Derrault said:

the Empire has to really stretch into the whole Indiscriminate Planet Destruction thing to really ping as evil.

It only takes one. But that's not their only evil thing.

1 hour ago, TauntaunScout said:

Droids don't have rights. Neither do any other inanimate objects, no matter how complicated they are.

Didn't Palpatine commission that whole Clone thing? Just a rebranding.

It only takes one. But that's not their only evil thing.

Droids are animate however, and within the context of Star Wars they are also explicitly sapient.

Yes, but in the cartoon show, it’s demonstrated that they’re basically slaves and treated as disposable non ‘humans’, even by most Jedi.

Agreed, but absent that, there’s not been a whole lot to make them explicitly ‘worse’.

24 minutes ago, Derrault said:

Droids are animate however, and within the context of Star Wars they are also explicitly sapient.

That's why they're built with receptors for restraining bolts and the possibility of memory erasing? Not buying it. Droids are like cars and toasters.

Mostly I see the flaws of the Republic as more evidence that the prequels were very problematic films in real life, not that the system of government in pretend-land was flawed.

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4 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

That's why they're built with receptors for restraining bolts and the possibility of memory erasing? Not buying it. Droids are like cars and toasters.

Mostly I see the flaws of the Republic as more evidence that the prequels were very problematic films in real life, not that the system of government in pretend-land was flawed.

I mean... the intelligence thing is established by virtue of their being able to grow.

Mind wiping is no different than Jedi mind tricks on non-droids to manipulate their memories.

And the Clone wars im referring to is the TV series, not the movies.

5 hours ago, Derrault said:

I mean... the intelligence thing is established by virtue of their being able to grow.

At best, droids are clever metallic crows that can figure how to twist sticks into tools, and humans are the gods that created them on the 5th day. But I'm going with the "droids are just very complex toasters that are connected to a very sophisticated internet" theory. Droids don't have feelings, they have programs that mimic expressions of emotion, which programs were designed by living things for the benefit of living things. They can't be "enslaved" any more than any other form of emotion-evoking art can. Do androids dream of electric sheep? No. This is why Jedi don't gain dark side points for callously destroying countless droids.

5 hours ago, Derrault said:

Mind wiping is no different than Jedi mind tricks on non-droids to manipulate their memories.

You can hit someone on the head hard enough and wipe their memory. But we weren't intentionally designed with a spare appliance that's kept at every mechanics shop, designed to do the same.

Anyways. Where ARE the rebel snowmen?

I think they're hung up on names. They seem committed to avoiding proper nouns like "Hoth" or "Endor" in naming the Legion squads. Maybe they are trying to decide what to call them. I vote for "rebel garrison".