Kanan, Tubbs, and Debris.

By Sir13scott, in X-Wing Rules Questions

I know I and a lot of people would agree that Tubbs and Kanan crew allow the stress from debris to be cleared assuming you did the appropriate maneuver.

Or an I wrong?

i ask because the local TO would like rule book examples :)

thanks in advance!

The stress from debris is after check difficulty step, which is also after the completion of the maneuver.

They can't clear the stress from debris For THEMSELVES.

But they can remove the stress from other ships that has ALREADY suffered the effects of the debris. Meaning Kanan can't help the ship while it's moving through the debris. But Tubbs can help a ship that has already activated and moved through the debris.

Edited by Croste

They both trigger after the completion of the maneuver. Before the Stress of the debris is applied.

Hmmmm, wait a minute. It is gaining the stress before it's stated that the maneuver is completed.

Debris Cloud: After the Check Difficulty step, the ship gains one
stress token. After executing the maneuver, it rolls one attack die. On a
󲁨 result, the ship suffers one 󲁨 damage.

I am truly wondering if the maneuver isn't completed until after it receives it's stress.

The first sentence on asteroid is After you complete the maneuver, were as debris has the statement of adding the stress before the sentence of After the maneuver is completed..

Triggers, triggers, triggers.

Edited by Croste

Maneuver (RRG p13): A ship can execute a maneuver by performing the following steps in order: 1) Maneuver Ship. 2) Check Difficulty. Therefore the maneuver cannot be considered fully (or partially) executed until both of these things are done.

Debris: After the Check Difficulty step, gain one stress.

Kanan/Jaycris: After you fully execute....

"After Check Difficulty" is either before or synonymous with "After you execute". Either way, because game effects are resolved before player abilities, the stress will be there when the ability triggers.

Therefore, the order is Check Difficulty -> Stress from debris -> Pilot/crew ability.

The "After Check Difficulty" trigger will always be before "After you execute a manuver". You have not finished executing a maneuver until after you have finished the Check difficulty step, which places the debris trigger before the trigger for Kanan or Tubbs.