I've flown Jostero off and on since 'guns for hire' game out in 1e. I was challenged today on whether a ship that loses a shield 'suffers damage'. To me it's pretty clear that 'suffers damage' includes losing a shield, because the rules explicitly state that. However, my friend was quick to point out that means a ship can 'suffer damage' yet not be 'damaged' which seems a bit contradictory ...

There are two types of damage: 󲁧 (regular) damage and 󲁨 (critical)
damage. When a ship suffers damage, that damage is suffered one at a
time. For each damage a ship suffers, it loses a shield by flipping the shield
to its inactive side. If it does not have an active shield remaining, it is dealt a
damage card instead. For 󲁧 damage, the card is dealt facedown; for 󲁨
damage, the card is dealt faceup and its text is resolved. All 󲁧 damage is
suffered before 󲁨 damage.
A ship is damaged while it has at least one damage card. A ship is
critically damaged while it has at least one faceup damage card.

I assume I'm reading this right though and not been abusing the Jostero ability?

Just now, eljms said:

I've flown Jostero off and on since 'guns for hire' game out in 1e. I was challenged today on whether a ship that loses a shield 'suffers damage'. To me it's pretty clear that 'suffers damage' includes losing a shield, because the rules explicitly state that. However, my friend was quick to point out that means a ship can 'suffer damage' yet not be 'damaged' which seems a bit contradictory ...

There are two types of damage: 󲁧 (regular) damage and 󲁨 (critical)
damage. When a ship suffers damage, that damage is suffered one at a
time. For each damage a ship suffers, it loses a shield by flipping the shield
to its inactive side. If it does not have an active shield remaining, it is dealt a
damage card instead. For 󲁧 damage, the card is dealt facedown; for 󲁨
damage, the card is dealt faceup and its text is resolved. All 󲁧 damage is
suffered before 󲁨 damage.
A ship is damaged while it has at least one damage card. A ship is
critically damaged while it has at least one faceup damage card.

I assume I'm reading this right though and not been abusing the Jostero ability?

Suffer Damage: Losing a shield or being dealt a damage card

Damaged (Gamestate as defined in 2.0): Having at least 1 damage card

These are keywords, not natural language, they could be called 1 and 2 for all the difference their names make to what their rules mean.

So yes, something can Suffer Damage without becoming Damaged. And vice versa, something can become Damaged without Suffering Damage (via Kylo's effect, or Seyn Marana's ability).

Thanks - that's how I'd understood it but it's good to be sure