How does this work exactly? Specifically after a red manoeuvre. Can I take a second action before taking 2 stress tokens? I’m assuming not, but some are not so sure.
Poe with Pattern Analyser
Yes.
Why could you not? Nothing limits how many actions you can take with PA, except that being double stressed is usually TERRIBLE.
Hmmm. Interesting.
Pattern Analyser says you can "perform 1 action" so surely Poe's ability or even a linked action shouldn't happen?
Edited by KingJenko53 minutes ago, KingJenko said:Pattern Analyser says you can "perform 1 action" so surely Poe's ability or even a linked action shouldn't happen?
Unlike Advanced Sensors which dictates a hard cap on actions, PA just lets you trigger an action outside the normal step.
That action can then trigger anything else that might occur after an action, including Linking into another action.
Most things say "one action." The Perform Action step does, so does Coordinate. It'd take something like Advanced Sensors spelling out a limit, or the Ionization rule (only Focus actions, which means also no linked actions) to stop a ship which has a way to move from one action into another.
On 2/10/2019 at 4:52 AM, thespaceinvader said:Why could you not? Nothing limits how many actions you can take with PA, except that being double stressed is usually TERRIBLE.
Unless you are Nien Nunb at range one in arc, then stress is your beverage of choice!
AND from trying to get Nien Nunb in arc at range 1 after a red maneuver, I can say this is not always easy to do! This combo seems to be exactly the kind of hi-risk, hard-maneuvering game play FFG was going for with v2.
8 hours ago, theBitterFig said:Most things say "one action." The Perform Action step does, so does Coordinate. It'd take something like Advanced Sensors spelling out a limit, or the Ionization rule (only Focus actions, which means also no linked actions) to stop a ship which has a way to move from one action into another.
Are you suggesting that you can perform a linked action when co-ordinated?
4 minutes ago, Chudley said:Are you suggesting that you can perform a linked action when co-ordinated?
Don't see why not, unless restricted by damage/Ion. The only qualifier for a Linked action is the preceding action.
4 minutes ago, Chudley said:Are you suggesting that you can perform a linked action when co-ordinated?
You can perform a linked action after you perform the action it is linked to regardless of what phase you're performing it in, excluding the Advance Sensors built in lockout and the only may perform an action once per round limitation which still apply.
2 minutes ago, Damo1701 said:Don't see why not, unless restricted by damage/Ion. The only qualifier for a Linked action is the preceding action.
Just now, Hiemfire said:You can perform a linked action after you perform the action it is linked to regardless of what phase you're performing it in, excluding the Advance Sensors built in lockout and the only may perform an action once per round limitation which still apply.
Nice!
7 minutes ago, Chudley said:Are you suggesting that you can perform a linked action when co-ordinated?
You absolutely can, that is to say, you can be coordinated to perform the left side, and then do the right side for its cost if any.
A linked action can be performed after performing the action it is attached to even if that action was granted by a card effect or other game effect.
RRp12
1 minute ago, Damo1701 said:Don't see why not, unless restricted by damage/Ion. The only qualifier for a Linked action is the preceding action.
And Ion, I forgot about the Ionization restriction despite it being mentioned earlier in thread.
20 minutes ago, Chudley said:Are you suggesting that you can perform a linked action when co-ordinated?
Other folks got me covered.
Well. I have re read the rules since I asked, and I must say that once again, the rules are quite clear. Honestly, these are some of the best rules FFG have ever written.
Thanks to to all who commented and confirmed information.
At what point do you gain the stress though from performing the red manoeuvre? After performing 1 action or what?
Surely the card lets you perform 1 action before gaining your stress etc?
Correct, pattern analyser works before gaining the stress.
2 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:Correct, pattern analyser works before gaining the stress.
so you perform 1 action get a stress.. how do you then link it if you are stressed or use Poe's ability?
Look up the ability queue and find out.
1 minute ago, thespaceinvader said:Look up the ability queue and find out.
thats why I posted on the forum, im trying to find out
17 minutes ago, KingJenko said:thats why I posted on the forum, im trying to find out
Execute Red, triggering PA
Action with PA
You did an Action, letting you Link (if possible) or use Poe’s ability
Stress from Red Linked/Poe’s ability
Stress from Maneuver