I am guessing the In 2 will be about 37 points? Maybe give or less. Even with full throttle these things can take damage pretty fast and might not be able to dish out the damage needed.

Regardless I am looking forward to getting and flying these guys. Still sad that it seems Sykes and Rhys arent pilots.

34-38 points sounds right for the init 2 generic. The most expensive single arc small ship with 2 atk and 2 agility looks like the generic tugboat at 32 points. It also, has 5 total hp (though all hull) and a great ability. Tack on a couple points for the shields instead of hull and 1 or 2 for the better (though more standard) dial and it looks right.

Assuming the generic doesn't have a talent slot, you don't have to worry about a swarm of them with Juke, which removes some of their teeth in a joust. They will take awhile to die though.

12 hours ago, MegaSilver said:

PS5 Naboo Fighter: while you defend or perform an attack, if the speed of your manuever is higher than [...] roll one additional die.



My guess is "if the speed of your manuever is higher than [the defender] roll one additional die.

They look interesting, like they are set to be flown in a certain way - fast moves and formations. I’m all in on these.

Remember we’ve not seen all of the things yet. There could be all sorts of things available to power them up. Missiles, cannons, torps all offset the 2 red dice.

Man stoked for these, and for future spoilers.

I think in terms of points, they’ll start at high 30s. Maybe 38 and go up. Full throttle is awesome and guarantees them one evade a turn, the bodyguard ability also allows you to minimise incoming damage on your ships.

5 hours ago, Dreadai said:

They look interesting, like they are set to be flown in a certain way - fast moves and formations. I’m all in on these.

Remember we’ve not seen all of the things yet. There could be all sorts of things available to power them up. Missiles, cannons, torps all offset the 2 red dice.

Man stoked for these, and for future spoilers.

I think in terms of points, they’ll start at high 30s. Maybe 38 and go up. Full throttle is awesome and guarantees them one evade a turn, the bodyguard ability also allows you to minimise incoming damage on your ships.

Cannons doesn't feel right, but missiles seems likely. Torpedoes actually, looking at the spread. Is that Plasma Torps?

13 minutes ago, mazz0 said:

Cannons doesn't feel right, but missiles seems likely. Torpedoes actually, looking at the spread. Is that Plasma Torps?

It's clearly a Torpedo (you can see the icon on the Resistance Transport and Hyena Bomber spreads), and it uses the old Plasma Torpedo art. Seems kinda safe to call it a Plasma Torpedo. It's also interesting in that it's a 3-dice attack, range 2-3. Probably carries a price similar to a 3-dice missile. I wouldn't be surprised if it had an effect like the old Plasma Torpedoes, with the defender losing a shield if the attack hits.

Lore-wise, only Torpedoes would be appropriate secondary weapons.

6 hours ago, Dreadai said:

They look interesting, like they are set to be flown in a certain way - fast moves and formations. I’m all in on these.

Remember we’ve not seen all of the things yet. There could be all sorts of things available to power them up. Missiles, cannons, torps all offset the 2 red dice.

Man stoked for these, and for future spoilers.

I think in terms of points, they’ll start at high 30s. Maybe 38 and go up. Full throttle is awesome and guarantees them one evade a turn, the bodyguard ability also allows you to minimise incoming damage on your ships.

Full Throttle is a fantastic ability when you have white K-Turn of Speed 3 or greater. On the N-1's it is going to see some drop off just because it can't casually go speed 3 all the time in the same way a Defender can while also still being relevant (also has less defense dice and less hp than a defender). I was actually milling around with how much better they are than Resistance A-Wings, +1 hp and full throttle, but weaker dial, no butt arc option and lacking a double repo along with lower AGL. I dunno, the full throttle probably makes it better, but not by leaps and bounds. Say 35 with some of the better pilots peaking mid-40's and call it day. Still 2 attack and 2 AGL after all, so it can totally die and isn't cranking damage.

It’s not a stand alone ship like the defender. Clearly designed to hunt in packs with the bodyguard ability to pass evades to allies they will mitigate the 2 greens to some extent. Comparing to the defender is easy because they both get full throttle but I think they are the wrong ship to look at. Rebel A-Wings might be a closer play style?

18 hours ago, FriendofYoda said:

Good points being made here, I actually now think 35 might be too high for the cheapest dude (or dudette). A-Wings start at 30 points? These then could be around 32 I suppose, that Init 5 pilot with fcs, juke, and r2 astro sounds pretty solid if the ability is to roll extra dice (presumably after doing a speed 3-5 move)

Given that it loses an agility but gains only a hull in return, it really ought to be CHEAPER than an A wing, not more expensive. The extra evade probably puts it up to around the same. It shouldn't be more.

I don't think people are talking about the chrome enough. It doesn't look right in those pictures....

2 minutes ago, mazz0 said:

I don't think people are talking about the chrome enough. It doesn't look right in those pictures....

It's a 3D render, not the original model, but honestly, I don't expect it to look amazing; doing high quality chromed paint is both difficult and a really fragile finish that's highly susceptible to damage, and marring with fingerprints etc.

23 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Given that it loses an agility but gains only a hull in return, it really ought to be CHEAPER than an A wing, not more expensive. The extra evade probably puts it up to around the same. It shouldn't be more.

I'd be surprised if it was cheaper. At a bare minimum, same cost. It's important to remember that using the evade from full throttle once was basically +1 hp, so so it's deceptive to say it only has 5 health. Probably minimum 6, and 7-8 could reasonably happen.

Compare to say, TIE agressor, which is actually about right in terms of cost. N-1 has same health, same attack, better action bar, better dial and pretty solid ship ability. Agressor is 30, so that's probably 33-34 range minimum.

Also, V-19 exists as is probably their cheap Z-95 like ship in the 24-26 range, dropping the N-1 below A-wings would make it a no brainer over the V-19s

3 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

It's a 3D render, not the original model, but honestly, I don't expect it to look amazing; doing high quality chromed paint is both difficult and a really fragile finish that's highly susceptible to damage, and marring with fingerprints etc.

Yeah, I agree, I doubt they're doing anything different from their normal painting process, which isn't going to give a mirror finish. I've started googling for tutorials on how to correct it myself. Foil that you glue on seems to be one option.

It'll be tricky when they come to do a shiny Naboo shuttle though, surely they won't think they can get away with that it anything other than mirror finish.

Chrome is overrated... 😋

Just now, mazz0 said:

Yeah, I agree, I doubt they're doing anything different from their normal painting process, which isn't going to give a mirror finish. I've started googling for tutorials on how to correct it myself. Foil that you glue on seems to be one option.

It'll be tricky when they come to do a shiny Naboo shuttle though, surely they won't think they can get away with that it anything other than mirror finish.

Worth a punt.

Also as someone mentioned before, juking torps might be a possibility. Or at least for the higher IN like Ric.

I dunno how good Plasma Torps will be in 2nd edition compared to 1st, a lot of ships have fewer shields and taking damage is far easier. Well I suppose it can be the Upsilon's boogey man.

Also the cheaper the N1 is the more I can fly...but the more I have to buy, the emptier my wallet gets...

As for the chrome, I agree it looks a little off in the pictures but still hard to say. If it doesn't I can try to touch up on it.

Oooh - if I find a good technique I'm definitely doing a chrome Aethersprite!

Maybe Republic Y-Wings as well. Hmm. What other ships have nice smooth surfaces and/or curves? Firesprays? Starvipers? CR90s??!!?!

3 minutes ago, mazz0 said:

Oooh - if I find a good technique I'm definitely doing a chrome Aethersprite!

Maybe Republic Y-Wings as well. Hmm. What other ships have nice smooth surfaces and/or curves? Firesprays? Starvipers? CR90s??!!?!

I feel sorry for anyone you play against, the amount of glare coming of the table will be painful.

10 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

I feel sorry for anyone you play against, the amount of glare coming of the table will be painful.

Might give me a chance in the match then! Even better!

Gold leaf isn’t that expensive. Bling squadron incoming 😂

1 hour ago, Hiemfire said:

I feel sorry for anyone you play against, the amount of glare coming of the table will be painful.

It would put a new meaning to the term "mirror match" with all of that shiny chrome plating.

Just now, T70 Driver said:

It would put a new meaning to the term "mirror match" with all of that shiny chrome plating.

Painfully depending on the lighting of the game area. I guess my bias against really shiny objects is really evident right now, I just don't like things that cause pain, and glare from chromed items has been a constant issue for me.

1 hour ago, Dreadai said:

Gold leaf isn’t that expensive. Bling squadron incoming 😂

🤢

23 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

Painfully depending on the lighting of the game area. I guess my bias against really shiny objects is really evident right now, I just don't like things that cause pain, and glare from chromed items has been a constant issue for me.

You're welcome to forfeit the match!

Just a reminder that Padme has a personal 100% chrome 100% shiny N1 fighter, and she is a pilot in this expansion: