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Posted at 2019-02-06 09:23:05+00:00

I cant stop building stupid lists

I need more MC80's

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Admiral Ackbar (38)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 180 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

Squadrons:
• Shara Bey (17)
= 17 Points

Total Points: 1191

Posted at 2019-02-06 09:38:55+00:00

16 minutes ago, X Wing Nut said:

I cant stop building stupid lists

I need more MC80's

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Admiral Ackbar (38)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 180 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

Squadrons:
• Shara Bey (17)
= 17 Points

Total Points: 1191

/More nervous Neimoidian/

This is getting out of hand! Now there are *eight* of them!

Edited February 6, 2019 by Rimsen
Why can't I insert gifs? :( Always red

Posted at 2019-02-06 09:59:51+00:00

why didnt i post this first

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• General Dodonna (20)
• External Racks (3)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 60 Points

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• External Racks (3)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 40 Points

Squadrons:
= 0 Points

Total Points: 1180

29 ships I don't think my wallet can handle this 😮

Posted at 2019-02-06 12:56:24+00:00

3 hours ago, X Wing Nut said:

I cant stop building stupid lists

I need more MC80's

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Admiral Ackbar (38)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 180 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

Squadrons:
• Shara Bey (17)
= 17 Points

Total Points: 1191

I think you meant to include 57 Z-95s <_<

Sloan with 50 TIE-fighters = 15.625 Enemy ship defence tokens spent + 43.75 damage per turn. Activating them all is tricky however. You can do it with some flotillas and 8 Quasars but the fleet lacks guns.

Sloane + 27 Phantoms + Steele however looks nice....

Edited February 6, 2019 by Mad Cat

Posted at 2019-02-06 13:44:44+00:00

Its important to remember than for Sector Fleet games, squadron points are 1/4th. So for a 1200 pt team, thats 300 pts of squadrons, or 37 TIEs, or 42 Z-95s.

Still, a huge number of ties. I personally would try to run Howlrunner + Dengar + 4 Ties for my 75 points. (1200/4 = 300/4 = 75pts.)

Posted at 2019-02-06 13:45:57+00:00

49 minutes ago, Mad Cat said:

I think you meant to include 57 Z-95s

Sloan with 50 TIE-fighters = 15.625 Enemy ship defence tokens spent + 43.75 damage per turn. Activating them all is tricky however. You can do it with some flotillas and 8 Quasars but the fleet lacks guns.

Sloane + 27 Phantoms + Steele however looks nice....

Squad cap 25%

Posted at 2019-02-06 13:57:42+00:00

4 hours ago, X Wing Nut said:

I cant stop building stupid lists

List A

List B

List C

I find your lack of SSD disturbing ;)

Posted at 2019-02-06 14:54:20+00:00

7 hours ago, X Wing Nut said:

I am honestly suprised they did not put in a ship type limit

Yes... I'm sure the laaaaast thing FFG wanted to happen was to have this format inspire a bunch of completionist rubes to go out and buy up another 10 CR90s, seeing as they don't have any other Armada product to spend money on... 🤣

As cool as it is to see an actual article from FFG, now that the buzz has worn off I'm still unimpressed. All this does is potentially give die-hard fans more reason to go out and buy old ships they didn't have any use for prior to the this article. And for groups like mine where interest has waned on the game and it's nearly impossible to find a willing opponent to schedule a game with, it's not going to be much easier to find someone to schedule a seven or eight hour game with it (and if we're being honest, a 1,200 point game at this format would easily take 8 hours, given my experience with the all out assaults of CC, which have built-in time-saving mechanics).

This doesn't give us any new content, it doesn't address or update any issues with the standard 400pt game, and it doesn't shake-up the 400pt scene in the slightest.

Does a mega team game of Armada sound fun? Of course it sounds fun on paper, but the nuts of bolts of running such a game have always existed formally (with CC all-out assaults and official side-event team games) and informally (just use a bigger point cap), so it's always been possible to play this way if a group of players so desired.

Posted at 2019-02-06 15:09:48+00:00

4 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Yes... I'm sure the laaaaast thing FFG wanted to happen was to have this format inspire a bunch of completionist rubes to go out and buy up another 10 CR90s, seeing as they don't have any other Armada product to spend money on... 🤣

As cool as it is to see an actual article from FFG, now that the buzz has worn off I'm still unimpressed. All this does is potentially give die-hard fans more reason to go out and buy old ships they didn't have any use for prior to the this article. And for groups like mine where interest has waned on the game and it's nearly impossible to find a willing opponent to schedule a game with, it's not going to be much easier to find someone to schedule a seven or eight hour game with it (and if we're being honest, a 1,200 point game at this format would easily take 8 hours, given my experience with the all out assaults of CC, which have built-in time-saving mechanics).

This doesn't give us any new content, it doesn't address or update any issues with the standard 400pt game, and it doesn't shake-up the 400pt scene in the slightest.

Does a mega team game of Armada sound fun? Of course it sounds fun on paper, but the nuts of bolts of running such a game have always existed formally (with CC all-out assaults and official side-event team games) and informally (just use a bigger point cap), so it's always been possible to play this way if a group of players so desired.

As excited as I am to have the extended play rules that I've been house ruling for years become official, I don't think think that was what this article was for. This may well be FFG response to the hundreds of comments they've seen over the last few months shouting "just give us something so we know you're still thinking about Armada".

Even considering how little they gave us the response compared to the X-wing clone wars preview and Legion Jyn preview speaks for itself.

They may not have given us much in terms of playability but it goes a long way to say "hey, we acknowledge you're there" to the player base.

Posted at 2019-02-06 15:26:30+00:00

1 hour ago, Green Knight said:

Squad cap 25%

Sorry I thought the 25% cap was only in the multiplayer individual fleets. But yes it is also in the single player, single commander fleet selection rules.

recalculating....

300 points = Howlrunner + 34 TIE Fighters + 1 Jumpmaster = 31.5 damage and 10.1 ship defence tokens spent.

Posted at 2019-02-06 20:17:19+00:00

5 hours ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Yes... I'm sure the laaaaast thing FFG wanted to happen was to have this format inspire a bunch of completionist rubes to go out and buy up another 10 CR90s, seeing as they don't have any other Armada product to spend money on... 🤣

As cool as it is to see an actual article from FFG, now that the buzz has worn off I'm still unimpressed. All this does is potentially give die-hard fans more reason to go out and buy old ships they didn't have any use for prior to the this article...

Who says I don't have enough of a fleet already (not for some cray cray 29 Hammerhead abomination, but a proper mixed fleet with lots of upgrades)

Edited February 6, 2019 by OgRib

Posted at 2019-02-06 20:19:32+00:00

5 hours ago, Darth Sanguis said:

As excited as I am to have the extended play rules that I've been house ruling for years become official, I don't think think that was what this article was for. This may well be FFG response to the hundreds of comments they've seen over the last few months shouting "just give us something so we know you're still thinking about Armada".

Even considering how little they gave us the response compared to the X-wing clone wars preview and Legion Jyn preview speaks for itself.

They may not have given us much in terms of playability but it goes a long way to say "hey, we acknowledge you're there" to the player base.

I'm happy, but maybe all the cool kids are on Instagram these days

Posted at 2019-02-06 20:22:24+00:00

1200 point fleets all on a 6x3 mat at the same time? Yeah, they playtested this a lot. Ramfest and squad reposition-fest.

Posted at 2019-02-06 20:34:35+00:00

7 minutes ago, Thraug said:

1200 point fleets all on a 6x3 mat at the same time? Yeah, they playtested this a lot. Ramfest and squad reposition-fest.

Yea, can't wait to see how much fun everyone has with the format when they actually realize what Armada with 54 squadrons on the table is actually like.

I find the squadron game insufferably obnoxious already, with only 260pts of them on a much more open board. Now let's squeeze 600pts of them onto an incredibly tighter board with more ships and more movement tools and range checks for them to get in the way of measuring. Honestly, I think this format would have been a lot more fun with a squadron cap of 0%, and heaven knows the actual 1,200pt game would probably play at lest three to four times as quickly with no squadrons on the board.

Ugh, just deploying 35-55 squadrons onto the board sounds like misery.

Posted at 2019-02-06 20:35:39+00:00

11 minutes ago, Thraug said:

1200 point fleets all on a 6x3 mat at the same time? Yeah, they playtested this a lot. Ramfest and squad reposition-fest.

It'll be a tight fit at the start...but things will thin out quickly with that much firepower.

I built my game table with a 1 foot wing that I can deploy...think I would want to for this one...

Posted at 2019-02-06 20:36:55+00:00

11 hours ago, X Wing Nut said:

I cant stop building stupid lists

I need more MC80's

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Admiral Ackbar (38)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 180 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

MC80 Assault Cruiser (114)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Electronic Countermeasures (7)
• Leading Shots (4)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Mon Calamari Exodus Fleet (5)
= 142 Points

Squadrons:
• Shara Bey (17)
= 17 Points

Total Points: 1191

You might want to grab some MC80 variants from Mel... just saying

Posted at 2019-02-06 20:37:23+00:00

6 hours ago, NewGandhi said:

I find your lack of SSD disturbing

thats because im part of the rebellion

Posted at 2019-02-06 20:39:11+00:00

1 minute ago, X Wing Nut said:

thats because im part of the rebellion

*wisper* lusankya.....

Posted at 2019-02-06 20:41:07+00:00

I really hope we can get some OP Official Tournament Kits made for multiplayer. Even if they're cobbled together from past/unused kits. Since one game might take all day, that's it. Winning team takes all. Which might actually end earlier than a 3-game tourney even without a top cut.

Posted at 2019-02-06 21:05:34+00:00

Absolutely it was tested.

But being osentsibly a "Casual game format" rather than a serious competition run, its mostly assumed that there will be at least some negotiation and discussion between sides on what sort of a game they'd like to see.

The limits are there for sanity's sake.

IF you don't want to run squads, that's great... You'll find having many more ships with overlapping Flak options renders a lot of squadrons Dead *faster* than before.

But generally speaking, let's even look at the lists that are being posited and posted - that's the level of insanity that was predicted, not squadron abominations

Annd I mean, its all well and good to posit alist that has 30 A-Wings in it... But Fighter Pack I still hasn't been Reprinted

That's another big factor in the list builds... What you actually *have*.

Edited February 6, 2019 by Drasnighta

Posted at 2019-02-06 21:23:26+00:00

I mean, you gotta renember, its 2, 3, 4 players on one side each running their own list. As an example here is a 300pt fleet I would run in a 1200ptpt:

Victory I (73)
• Admiral Motti (24)
• Ordnance Experts (4)
• Heavy Turbolaser Turrets (6)
• Rapid Reload (8)
= 115 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Enhanced Armament (10)
• Centicore (3)
= 67 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Enhanced Armament (10)
= 64 Points

Raider I (44)
• Rapid Reload (8)
= 52 Points

On top of my 300pts, I would be working with 4 others, at least thats the point I would enjoy the most. It changes things drastically! My 4 ships can be either an end bit, a central part of the engagement line, ect. Sure, we can throw tens of squadrons at each other, and come up with these 1200pt lists, but the better question is how does player interaction adjust when your all working for one or more objectives, and different play styles and list building styles, ect.

Posted at 2019-02-06 22:00:38+00:00

55 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Absolutely it was tested

Sooo... you're a playtester then? Cool. Can you confirm the alleged leaks about Wave 8 that were "reported" by [that Podcast we cannot mention on these boards]? Hit us up in PM if needed!

Edited February 6, 2019 by AllWingsStandyingBy

Posted at 2019-02-06 22:08:25+00:00

7 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Sooo... you're a playtester then? Cool. Can you confirm the alleged leaks about Wave 8 that were "reported" by [that Podcast we cannot mention on these boards]? Hit us up in PM if needed!

leaks?

Posted at 2019-02-06 22:09:06+00:00

1 hour ago, eliteone said:

I really hope we can get some OP Official Tournament Kits made for multiplayer. Even if they're cobbled together from past/unused kits. Since one game might take all day, that's it. Winning team takes all. Which might actually end earlier than a 3-game tourney even without a top cut.

Just use a seasonal kit?

Posted at 2019-02-06 22:09:33+00:00

55 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

That's another big factor in the list builds... What you actually *have*.

I mean, we say that it would be absurd for "pay to win" folks to show up with ludicrously expensive builds to relatively meaningless events, but it never stopped people from winning Regionals with things like 134pts of YT-2400s or seven CR90s all with TRCs before TRC was an easily obtainable promo card. Also, don't underestimate people's ability to pool resources and borrow what they need from a local community.

I'm sure if FFG ever ran official events at big venues for this format, you'd certainly see the most absurd lists costs be damned (e.g. four SSDs, twenty-seven A-Wings, etc.). We certainly saw similarly insane and expensive lists being flow at Team Epic X-Wing events, even those were throw-away events with a single round (e.g. lists with 20 TIE variants all sporting Stealth Device cards, lists with sixteen Twin Laser Turrets at a time when you could only get 2x Twin Laser Turret in a $20 ship no one wanted more than one of, etc.).

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