I agree with both of you in that regard. I feel it didnt focus enough on its fast parts, skipped over realatively important info (L3 is the Falcon now), and also I think that if they had set it closer to ANH and had tried to tell a 2 part story leading up to us seeing Han and Chewie in Mos Eisley, it might have been a story that mattered a little more ... sorta like what they did with Rogue One being directly before ANH.

I am am with Sanguis in my opinion of the new movies, I like them, I like where they are going. I like the plot points that are going on, and I like the theories that I have. I am excited to see what 9 will do, and also what The Mandalorian will do. I want to see what Clone Wars S7 does, and I want to watch Resistance to see what it does.

They should have done the Kenobi movie instead. I would like to have seen a story of Obi-wan going back and getting Cody or something like that. I have always felt bad, because Cody doesnt get enough love as well as Rex.

2 minutes ago, Ling27 said:

They should have done the Kenobi movie instead.

"Things literally all my friends have said for $1000, Alex."

2 hours ago, AdmiralYor said:

Solo really doesn't get there on either count.

I was told never to talk about Star Wars movies on this forum ever again.

I’m going to anyway.

Solo was better than I feared. It helped, as Plinkett would say, going in with expectations so low they were next to Dinosaur bones. I may even watch it again at some point. I would have much preferred about 10,000 other plot ideas more though.

TLJ started simultaneously interesting and monumentally stupid, and greatly favoured the later as it went on. I have no idea where Episode 9 is going and I don’t care. The Rebellion are like the Starks now, they are too stupid to root for and it’s just annoying they keep doing everything wrong and are saved every time by the writers.

4 minutes ago, Bakura83 said:

The Rebellion are like the Starks now, they are too stupid to root for and it’s just annoying they keep doing everything wrong and are saved every time by the writers.

Your overall point isn't wrong, but I think it's a bad comparison. The Starks are either dead or so emotionally traumatized to the point that that I doubt that the house will ever exist with the same nobility every again. Even if they "win" in the end, they will likely have become just as "bad" as any other house. My guess is that any prequel they do with the house will center around how their ancestors were NOT that honorable but set an impossible fake standard that killed their descendants.

Random unrelated side note, Sean Bean as the villain in the new season of the Netflix Medici show certainly provides a counterweight to Ned Stark. I kinda want to see a conversation of cut of video between the two.

30 minutes ago, Bakura83 said:

I have no idea where Episode 9 is going and I don’t care. The Rebellion are like the Starks now, they are too stupid to root for and it’s just annoying they keep doing everything wrong and are saved every time by the writers.

I mean, thats the entire plot of star wars though. The Attack on Scarif should have failed, rescuing Leia from the Death Star should have failed, attack on Death Star should have failed, entirety if 6, should have failed. ****, if numbers from the clone wars is right, each clone would have to kill 12 droids, a minute to have won the war.

Almost all of Star Wars is questionable choices lead by getting saved in the end by... I assume the force.

48 minutes ago, Ling27 said:

****, if numbers from the clone wars is right,  each clone would have to kill 12 droids, a minute to have won the war.

There's a lot of debate over whether some of the given numbers are accurate or not. The now EU Republic Commando novels show Palpatine drip-feeding Spaarti clones into the ranks late in the war, and some investigation into whether the "quintillions" of battle droids we hear about elsewhere is a propaganda figure. I believe the conclusion is it's about 200 million droids to at least 3 million clones; bad odds but not impossible, especially with the Sidious pulling strings.

2 hours ago, Ling27 said:

Almost all of Star Wars is questionable choices lead by getting saved in the end by... I assume the force.

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Oh wait this is why I was told never to talk about the new movies on this forum. I will internally process my negative feelings instead of derailing the thread in a flame war.

Moving on...

2 minutes ago, Bakura83 said:

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Oh wait this is why I was told never to talk about the new movies on this forum. I will internally process my negative feelings instead of derailing the thread in a flame war.

Moving on...

Your restraint is much appreciated.

It seems perfectly reasonable to make a separate “Mos Eisley” burner thread if you feel the need though. I can tell @PodRacer to get the Mafia plug ready.

Remember Moriarty, it's a mother beautiful bridge. If you believe it will be there, it will be.

4 hours ago, The Jabbawookie said:

There's a lot of debate over whether some of the given numbers are accurate or not. The now EU Republic Commando novels show Palpatine drip-feeding Spaarti clones into the ranks late in the war, and some investigation into whether the "quintillions" of battle droids we hear about elsewhere is a propaganda figure. I believe the conclusion is it's about 200 million droids to at least 3 million clones; bad odds but not impossible, especially with the Sidious pulling strings.

They really need to get Karen Travis to makes some new canon republic commando books. The books and the game are some of my favourite stories. **** shame they fell into EU purgatory. At least Delta squad is canon, but that's just about it...

Just now, BlueSquadronPilot said:

They really need to get Karen Travis to makes some new canon republic commando books. The books and the game are some of my favourite stories. **** shame they fell into EU purgatory. At least Delta squad is canon, but that's just about it...

The Essential Guide to Warfare and the Essential Reader's Companion had some sweet Skirata art (plus Etain and Darman meeting for the first time.) Sadly EU, but somebody cared enough to get pictures made, and that still makes me happy. It's almost better to keep that perfect slice of lore as is rather than watch it get forcefully juxtaposed with Satine's Mandalore and the Bad Batch and the like.

Now, sneaking Kad into The Mandalorian... that's a dream come true.

It seems Disney is just burning bridges.....

My biggest complaint about Solo was its release date...it was too soon after the last film. Was there any word on why they didn't release it last December?

43 minutes ago, Dobbs Mottley said:

My biggest complaint about Solo was its release date...it was too soon after the last film. Was there any word on why they didn't release it last December?

Re-shoots. Drama. KK being incompetent.

But surely production issues would suggest a later release date? I thought the strategy was to release films at roughly one-year intervals, alternating between sequel trilogy and "anthology" films...in which case December 2018 would have been the obvious slot. Even without the controversy surrounding TLJ, I tend to feel that pushing out Solo a mere five months later was a risky gamble.

I liked "Rogue One". But I had 2 problems with this film. First: it was uninspired and old-school to tell how bad guy Krennic shot Jyns mother as a preamble. It would have been better to tell jump into the story fast and tell this kind of things in flash backs. Second: the part with the mind-reading/cracking strange-pulp. It was good for nothing. But all in all I enjoyed R1. The film felt right for me. It brought some aspects of rebellion and asymmetrical warfare to live, not yet told in Star Wars. And the end was surprisingly non-happy ending!

"Solo Story" was like a complete preamble movie ful of needless strange-pulps for me. It was predictable and ful of things that could have been let out. It just showed things we already knew. Han comes from Corellia - check ! Han has been at Imperial Academy - check ! Han met Chewie - check ! Han has a blaster - check ! Han met Lando - check ! Han made Kessel Run - check ! Han won Falcon from Lando - check ! Actors were good, effects were nice, but story board was trash.

It was no better than some fan fiction would have done. It was a mediocre film because of a weak script. And that's sadly enough much better than TFA has been in my eyes. (Didn't waste my money on TLJ.)

No hope for Episode IX at my side, but want The Mandalorian to be cool!

1 hour ago, Triangular said:

I liked "Rogue One". But I had 2 problems with this film. First: it was uninspired and old-school to tell how bad guy Krennic shot Jyns mother as a preamble. It would have been better to tell jump into the story fast and tell this kind of things in flash backs. Second: the part with the mind-reading/cracking strange-pulp. It was good for nothing. But all in all I enjoyed R1. The film felt right for me. It brought some aspects of rebellion and asymmetrical warfare to live, not yet told in Star Wars. And the end was surprisingly non-happy ending!

"Solo Story" was like a complete preamble movie ful of needless strange-pulps for me. It was predictable and ful of things that could have been let out. It just showed things we already knew. Han comes from Corellia - check ! Han has been at Imperial Academy - check ! Han met Chewie - check ! Han has a blaster - check ! Han met Lando - check ! Han made Kessel Run - check ! Han won Falcon from Lando - check ! Actors were good, effects were nice, but story board was trash.

It was no better than some fan fiction would have done. It was a mediocre film because of a weak script. And that's sadly enough much better than TFA has been in my eyes. (Didn't waste my money on TLJ.)

No hope for Episode IX at my side, but want The Mandalorian to be cool!

I swear Solo was made as a movie for people that don't know what Star Wars is. Like it's a little teaser to get you into the universe.

The scene where Han meets Chewie is laughable. Monster growls, dark shadows moving. It's supposed to be scary, unsettling. It's supposed to be a surprise that these two end up working together....but since we all already know this, we all knew who was in the shadows. Not even my 5 year old was thrown by this. Han is in the pit, scary noises, my 5 year old blurts out "It's just Chewie, what's he scared of."

The sad part is there was actual potential to pull it together into a decent movie. Little things would have helped a lot. Take the train robbery scene. Val realizes she's doomed, instead of her telling Beckett that she loves him which just fell flat. How about we see Val make the realization, she comms Beckett and says, "Tobias, I'm not going to make it." Beckett responds, "Val! No! Don't do it!" Val says, "Beckett, I'm sorry." Beckett realizes that there is no other choice and resigns to his fate. He says one last thing to her, "I love you.", to which Val responds, "I know." and BOOM. Now we get it, now we see this unwritten, unspoken bond between them. We can connect it back to our understanding of Han and Leia. And we get a light moment in a very dark part of the movie that gives us hope and reminds us that this is Solo figuring out who he is.

And why the **** didn't Beckett dress like Solo did in the OT. Solo was supposed to explain how Solo became OT Han Solo. It didn't.

Oh and that ending. Music sores, camera closes in, and the mysterious stranger we've been fighting against slowly removes her helmet...like we were supposed to know who this is. My brain is swimming in possibilities, who could this be, what interesting connection is going to be revealed, this is so cool! And then we find out its just some nameless stranger that we have no connection to. It's fine that she wasn't known, but the reveal was done like we should know this person. Ugh. The entire movie was like it was from a different universe. A universe where the PT happened first, and this movie came next, then RO was going to intro into the OT.

Lando and his droid were the only decent parts of that entire film.

I liked Ep7. It was good. I enjoyed Ep8. It was a good movie. It wasn't a great star wars movie, but it was fine. Better than PT. I figure Ep9 will be enjoyable. Action forward sci fi movie. I have hopes for Mandalorian.

I did not "boycott" "Solo." I simply had no sense that it would be something worth seeing based on the three prior films I had seen. I was "meh" on "Rogue One" and despise Force Awakens and Last Jedi. Why the heck would I give them money for a film they switched directors on? I know of maybe one film that worked out well on.

I took the time to watch "Solo" on Netflix and boy is that thing flat. It doesn't stink but it isn't any good either. No chemistry between any of the principals. More cheap grasps for emotional beats the film hasn't earned. More film-making by focus group.

I love "Rebels" though. I think all of that is pretty terrific.