15 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

So System Opens are designed to be an attempt to appease players who bought into the conversion kits.

In other words, FFG is running multiple formats to cater to multiple tastes. Exactly what Hyperspace has claimed from the beginning.

16 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

I guess you can choose to believe hyperspace is all about balance and monetary consideration is not baked into the format at all.

When did I ever say money didn't figure into it? I said that selling two factions that were guaranteed to sell well regardless of format is not the only reason for Hyperspace, as you seem to imply. That is to say, I think there's a lot more going on in this decision than just "make sure Republic and CIS sell."

23 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

So 5 games gained a hole bunch of new players and x-wing didn't lose any players and the existing players are buying exactly what they were before. Is that very likely?

First of all, actually having any data from 2.0 would help, instead of basing your complaints about the health of 2.0 on 1.0 data. Secondly, I think it somewhat unlikely that the numbers stayed exactly constant, but that's only one of several possibilities. Maybe all games are up, and those just rose faster due to announcements at the time (e.g. maybe those other games DIDN'T announce a completely new edition, causing people to hold off on buying too much until they saw what was in store). Maybe all games are down. Maybe X-Wing died months ago and none of us noticed because we were too busy having fun playing it. My point is, you can't just grab one of several explanations and say, "THIS IS THE ONLY POSSIBILITY!"

29 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

x-wing 1.0 used to provide patch notes in the form of a FAQ (never made any sense calling it an FAQ). And we used to get developer rational in those FAQs and usually articles to go along side of the

Well, the FAQ is now the Rules Reference, and yes, they still include the full changes of the erratas in there. Also note, this was a points update, not a rules update. They're not doing it the way they did it in 1.0 because this is something completely new that they never did in 1.0.

49 minutes ago, Do I need a Username said:

Look, As much as I like this as a technique, this is sooooooooo last year. Cereal is where it is AT. Fast, and filling.

Cereal is like sand, it's coarse, and rough, irritating, and it gets everywhere. Unlike pancakes with butter... which are soft, and smooth.

2 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Cereal is like sand, it's coarse, and rough, irritating, and it gets everywhere. Unlike pancakes with butter... which are soft, and smooth.

You've never had whole grain pancakes I take it. 😋

Just now, Hiemfire said:

You've never had whole grain pancakes I take it. 😋

I think i've had resturaunt whole grain pancakes, which aren't really whole grain, so i'm just going to go ahead and say no.

2 hours ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

Don't worry, you are doing more to shrink this community than I ever will. Actively encouraging x-wing players to move on to other games will certainly help kill this game.

I’m just giving you sound life advice. If a thing doesn’t give you joy anymore then it’s not worth your time. Am I not right?

4 hours ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

If this game was doing well in sales, they would not have created the hyperspace format and banned 90% of the cards. If this game was selling well, it would be in the top 5 sales list according to ICV2. If this game was selling well, they would have created patch notes.

Sorry to break it to you, but Hyperspace was planned long before 2.0 was even released. And it is pretty similar to the solutions used by games such as MtG.

The latest ICV2 sales report was based on data from the end of 1.0, and the "fall from the chart" was almost entirely the result of GW finally giving the boot to the incompetent fool that was driving the company into the dirt.

Wasting several hours on patch notes for simple changes that are completely obvious to everyone even moderately aware of the competitive scene is completely pointless (they even gave a few words of explanation to most of the changes in the article, for the less-informed). In case you weren't aware, even the most wildly successful tabletop games bring in hundreds of times less money than the average popular video game.

5 hours ago, benskywalker said:

He's essentially started another thread that is the same as one that got locked. Lol! Trying to get banned...?

One can only hope.... c'mon Devs, do us a solid!!!

Now I want a big breakfast.

1 hour ago, Elavion said:

Wasting  several hours on patch notes for simple changes that are completely obvious to everyone even moderately aware of the competitive scene is completely pointle  s   s 

They should be able to compile this from an internal document anyways, so hours is a bit of a stretch. A simple, easy and fast to read list like in DOTA2 balance-patch notes would have been a very nice thing to have to be able to process all changes in their specific incarnation at once. Now I don't think this is a big deal and an indication the game is on life support, but it is valuable feedback to FFG. Next time, do it like this, it is no big effort and very valuable for us as community.

I do wish they'd shown the points changes in red like they usually do on the FAQ. But it's not really a big issue...

7 hours ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

Epic didn't ban 90% of the cards.

Aye, you're right. 100 point matches is what killed 1.0, what with them banning epic ships from it.

2 hours ago, Admiral Deathrain said:

They should be able to compile this from an internal document anyways, so hours is a bit of a stretch. A simple, easy and fast to read list like in DOTA2 balance-patch notes would have been a very nice thing to have to be able to process all changes in their specific incarnation at once. Now I don't think this is a big deal and an indication the game is on life support, but it is valuable feedback to FFG. Next time, do it like this, it is no big effort and very valuable for us as community.

DOTA's balance team is probably larger than FFG's entire game design department. X-Wing has 3 part-time designers total (which is an all time high, btw), I highly doubt they bother writing down their rationales for most of the changes.

Are people still trying to fight this troll off his rocker?

As terrible as your attitude and reasoning is, I do agree with one thing: I would, in fact, like an official list of all the changes.

9 hours ago, JJH_BATMAN said:

SO MUCH SALT AHHHHHHH

Lace could make Lot's wife blush

Posts like these are why these forums need a downvote button.

9 hours ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

Yet in other games, point increases and decreases are explained. The problem is not with me, perhaps its your lack of engagement with other games that actually provide good patch notes. Also, there is no patch notes even indicating that torps went up. So there is that too.

Not all games.

Can't remember if it was Dark souls or destiny (maybe both), but the notes would bundle minor adjustments to anything up to broad categories of weapons and the players would he left to guess what that meant.

But when the patch notes would mirror the actual patch (a text list of changed values), I'd skip the patch notes too, beyond saying that a change to things happened and to update your offline documentation.

2 hours ago, Elavion said:

DOTA's balance team is probably larger than FFG's entire game design department. X-Wing has 3 part-time designers total (which is an all time high, btw), I highly doubt they bother writing down their rationales for most of the changes.

It's not about rationals, I should have clarified that. Just a concise summary of the changes, which is something they have to have to be able to adjust balance incrementally and to communicate changes to the app team.

2 hours ago, player3010587 said:

Are people still trying to fight this troll off his rocker?

I don't get it either. If people won't accept Cereal as the real breakfast MVP, they are clearly trolling.

1 hour ago, StriderZessei said:

Posts like these are why these forums need a downvote button.

And a facepalm emoji.

As for the OPs claim that the game is dying? Wave 4, with two new factions, would like to have a word with him.

4 minutes ago, T70 Driver said:

And a facepalm emoji.

As for the OPs claim that the game is dying? Wave 4, with two new factions, would like to have a word with him.

We're getting even more factions in Wave IV?!

1 minute ago, JJ48 said:

We're getting even more factions in Wave IV?!

Not sure if you're joking but FFG announced at Gencon 2018 that the Clone War factions, Republic and CIS, were being added to the game in wave 4.

9 minutes ago, T70 Driver said:

And a facepalm emoji.

As for the OPs claim that the game is dying? Wave 4, with two new factions, would like to have a word with him.

Wave 3. There hasn't been a teaser for wave 4 yet, that article should pop up some time in Feb if they keep the same info release rate as Wave 3.

5 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

Wave 3. There hasn't been a teaser for wave 4 yet, that article should pop up some time in Feb if they keep the same info release rate as Wave 3.

My bad. Looks like I could use that facepalm emoji right now. I blame lack of coffee.

7 minutes ago, T70 Driver said:

My bad. Looks like I could use that facepalm emoji right now. I blame lack of coffee.

I'd share some of mine, but I don't think we're in the same zip code.