By far the very best patch notes I have seen is from Microsoft Visual Studio Code. Have a look here:
https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_30
Here is an example of a video game Arena of Valor:
And if you want just the very basic, dota 2 is a good one:
http://www.dota2.com/news/updates/46659/
That is of course if you actually have the money to invest in writing patch notes. Considering the game is on life support, I suspect the devs will ignore this and continue on Business as Usual.
Go away
Any bets as to how long before this thread gets locked?
Also why am I bothering, I'll just upset my stomach and there goes my dinner... Mind you I worked very hard to cook it too.
Patch notes for what? Nothing was patched.
1 minute ago, JJ48 said:Patch notes for what? Nothing was patched.
OP is very likely from a PC Gaming background, as their continual references to DOTA and LoL supports, so that is likely the first term that comes to mind to cover any changes to a game. This thread seems to be as close to constructive criticism as they can muster, so maybe let this one slide?
I’d have let this slide, except “this game is on life support.”
Patently false. End of discussion on the subject. If you don’t like it that much, then shoo.
1 hour ago, ScummyRebel said:I’d have let this slide, except “this game is on life support.”
Patently false. End of discussion on the subject. If you don’t like it that much, then shoo.
If this game was doing well in sales, they would not have created the hyperspace format and banned 90% of the cards. If this game was selling well, it would be in the top 5 sales list according to ICV2. If this game was selling well, they would have created patch notes. You should also lookup what 'patents' are because you don't seem to understand how to use the word correctly.
Edited by Lace Jetstreamer10 hours ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:If this game was doing well in sales, they would not have created the hyperspace format and banned 90% of the cards.
Multiple formats are bad? So Epic is what killed 1.0?
10 hours ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:IIf this game was selling well, it would be in the top 5 sales list according to ICV2.
The one does not follow from the other. A game can sell well and still not be in the top 5, unless we're claiming that only five games at a time can sell well.
10 hours ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:If this game was selling well, they would have created patch notes.
This is even less logically sound. How does the number of sales have anything to do with patch notes?
Edited by JJ48He's essentially started another thread that is the same as one that got locked. Lol! Trying to get banned...?
Just now, JJ48 said:Multiple formats are bad? So Epic is what killed 1.0?
Epic didn't ban 90% of the cards. Also, FFG is pushing hyperspace above their other formats requiring it for store champs, regionals, and nationals. FFG did not attempt to make Epic the premier format. The reason for the 90% card ban is due to FFG needing to sell their new faction ships (due to loss of sales as indicated by ICV2).
2 minutes ago, JJ48 said:The one does not follow from the other. A game can sell well and still not be in the top 5, unless we're claiming that only five games at a time can sell well.
It shows that x-wing is in a downward trend. It was #1 in sales for a long time. And then all of a sudden, it dropped off the list completely.
2 minutes ago, JJ48 said:This is even less logically sound. How does the number of sales have anything to do patch notes?
FFG gave up. Here is FFG's own words:
QuoteThere are too many tweaks to touch on each of them fully, so we’ll just say a few words about the biggest and most impactful ones.
I never have read this statement in patch notes for a game before. Granted my background is video games and in terms of competitive games I have most recently played Fortnite and AoV. The player bases would go nuts if the patch notes contained that sort of language with very little explanation of actually what was buffered and nerfed.
A healthy game would include at least the differences and hopefully add commentary for each of the changes. The Devs just made sweeping changes without explanation. That says alot about the 'time' they are putting into this game.
Just now, benskywalker said:He's essentially started another thread that is the same as one that got locked. Lol! Trying to get banned...?
I started this thread before the other one was locked. Good try though.
1 minute ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:I started this thread before the other one was locked. Good try though.
Whatever works. I have no intention of helping you lock it. Good luck.
36 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:
Ah...the legacy lives on
I really, really can’t believe I’m gonna post here....
it seems to me if you if you can’t look at, let’s say proton torps for example and realize that points increased and the reasoning behind it was that it was undercosted for the benefit you gained, well, maybe, just maybe the problem isn’t with the game or the company.
Seems pretty straightforward to me,
points needed to be adjusted.
Points were adjusted.
No need to explain why.
It is pretty self explanatory.
18 minutes ago, benskywalker said:Whatever works. I have no intention of helping you lock it. Good luck.
Just to your comment regarding trying to get banned, what is your intention there? As this thread is fundamentally different giving advice to devs with links to 'good' patch notes. Why do you ask if I want to get banned as I have done NOTHING that warrants a ban.
2 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:Also, FFG is pushing hyperspace above their other formats requiring it for store champs, regionals, and nationals. FFG did not attempt to make Epic the premier format.
Where do System Opens fall into that? Those appear to be Extended. Also, where are you finding your information about store championships?
11 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:The reason for the 90% card ban is due to FFG needing to sell their new faction ships (due to loss of sales as indicated by ICV2).
Prove this statement, please. It seems to me that if FFG really wanted to create a new format solely to sell the new factions, they'd just make a "Prequels Format" and ban all non-prequel ships. Also, do you think they're abandoning Extended? If so, why did they bother updating so many of the Extended ships' points and make them more playable?
14 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:It shows that x-wing is in a downward trend. It was #1 in sales for a long time. And then all of a sudden, it dropped off the list completely.
So, either it moved down or other games moved up. Without seeing the actual figures, it's impossible to tell what's going on.
16 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:I never have read this statement in patch notes for a game before.
Neither have I. That's probably because it's from a public announcement rather than from patch notes.
Just now, Vykk Draygo said:I really, really can’t believe I’m gonna post here....
it seems to me if you if you can’t look at, let’s say proton torps for example and realize that points increased and the reasoning behind it was that it was undercosted for the benefit you gained, well, maybe, just maybe the problem isn’t with the game or the company.
Seems pretty straightforward to me,
points needed to be adjusted.
Points were adjusted.
No need to explain why.
It is pretty self explanatory.
Yet in other games, point increases and decreases are explained. The problem is not with me, perhaps its your lack of engagement with other games that actually provide good patch notes. Also, there is no patch notes even indicating that torps went up. So there is that too.
SO MUCH SALT AHHHHHHH
Edited by JJH_BATMAN2 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:Yet in other games, point increases and decreases are explained. The problem is not with me, perhaps its your lack of engagement with other games that actually provide good patch notes. Also, there is no patch notes even indicating that torps went up. So there is that too.
I regret that I only have one sad to give.
I’m out, y’all have fun,
Its seems to me that this game is already dead to you OP. Why do you still bother? The game has clearly moved on, perhaps so should you.
4 minutes ago, JJ48 said:Where do System Opens fall into that? Those appear to be Extended. Also, where are you finding your information about store championships?
System Open events are not the main focus according to FFG. If FFG completely abandoned extended, there would be a massive backlash. FFG does not want that so they have tried carefully to keep things under the radar. This is why we didn't hear about 90% massive card bans during the initial propaganda campain for 2.0. So System Opens are designed to be an attempt to appease players who bought into the conversion kits. I don't think it will work but time will tell. As for store champs - this article seems like that is what is going to happen: https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/1/16/jump-to-hyperspace
10 minutes ago, JJ48 said:Prove this statement, please. It seems to me that if FFG really wanted to create a new format solely to sell the new factions, they'd just make a "Prequels Format" and ban all non-prequel ships. Also, do you think they're abandoning Extended? If so, why did they bother updating so many of the Extended ships' points and make them more playable?
If FFG banned 100% all existing stuff, they would lose the vast majority of players. Do I need to prove that? Banning 90% of the existing cards is to allow the new factions 'equal' footing in terms of choice. This is clearly to incentivize the sale of those new faction ships. Do I need proof of that? I guess you can choose to believe hyperspace is all about balance and monetary consideration is not baked into the format at all. Maybe apply some critical thinking or just believe the word of the developer that its for 'new players'.
14 minutes ago, JJ48 said:So, either it moved down or other games moved up. Without seeing the actual figures, it's impossible to tell what's going on.
So 5 games gained a hole bunch of new players and x-wing didn't lose any players and the existing players are buying exactly what they were before. Is that very likely?
15 minutes ago, JJ48 said:Neither have I. That's probably because it's from a public announcement rather than from patch notes.
Because there were no patch notes. I errored in that. Fortnite, Dota 2, AoV all provide patch notes when they update the game. x-wing 1.0 used to provide patch notes in the form of a FAQ (never made any sense calling it an FAQ). And we used to get developer rational in those FAQs and usually articles to go along side of them. For x-wing second edition all we got was a short article that didn't explain much. So I am not really sure where you are going with you not reading it in patch notes. If the developer would have made that statement regarding the article and then providing a link to actual patch notes which detailed the changed and rational, then sure, there wouldn't be a problem with that statement. But the fact is, the developer didn't provide patch notes, they didn't provide what was changed and they didn't explain why they made the changes. That is on the developer. I am not personally ok with considering its what we got in x-wing 1.0. Second edition is a drop in quality. But justify it however you like.
1 minute ago, Wraithdt said:Its seems to me that this game is already dead to you OP. Why do you still bother? The game has clearly moved on, perhaps so should you.
Don't worry, you are doing more to shrink this community than I ever will. Actively encouraging x-wing players to move on to other games will certainly help kill this game.
1 hour ago, FlyingAnchors said:
Look, As much as I like this as a technique, this is sooooooooo last year. Cereal is where it is AT. Fast, and filling.