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12 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

Anyone else think Lace, Rexler and Vontoothskie should form a boy band..?

I think 2 of them might be the same person.

19 minutes ago, Jike said:

And the counterpoint is that they've just released a massive list of updated points costs and ship upgrade changes . Not sure how that indicates a lack of effort. Seems like more effort than they put into any single change during 1st edition.

(Bold my emphasis).

Granted, some of the upgrade slot changes were quite nice to stumble on. While others, FFG used a sledgehammer to open a peanut. Smacking a whole chassis to remove a single combo is completely overkill.

This signals a severe lack of thought and a knee-jerk reaction, rather than something well thought out and actually trialled for more than a game or two.

"Players don't live Whisper/Vader, what shall we do, the sky is falling!"

"Slam the crew slot off and... er... stick a gunner on there. Fixed!"

No follow up about a severe lack of Imperial gunners, now, completely forgetting that there are 3 other pilots for the Phantom who benefit or combine well, but not as well as Vader did, to make interesting lists.

Yay. Fifth Brother....and, in a list with 3 phantoms..?

31 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

• Star Wars is an example of SJW politics which  turns  off many people from the brand altogether 

Just stop. Whining about SJW anything makes you sound like a 14 year old who's mad he hasn't gotten to see a lady nude yet. You're the old man yelling at kids to stay off his lawn when you whine about the SJW's. This one statement makes me think ur just trying to turn this thread into a flame war btw. Some grade A bait right there.

31 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

App builder is a broken mess  and seems irrepairable 

The app isn't perfect but it does work, and has literally all of the info on the game you need to need to build a squad. I wont deny that it was pretty bad on day 1, but we aren't still living in 2018. Personally, I stopped having issues with the app long before Wave 2's release. Let it go already.

31 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

Banning 90% of cards  for  main tournament format     

Hyperspace is one of the main tournament formats. even hyperspace tournaments will have extended events as well. your anger over this ban is ridiculous. Extended is still very much alive, even if you say otherwise. There are things about Hyperspace we don't know yet, but we do know that it isn't the only way to play the game.

31 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

2 patches per year (this is very laughable for a suppodely competative game)

There are 2 point adjustments each year. FAQ's and errata will continue to happen as needed. we already saw that happen BTW. we got FAQ's almost immediately after the games release. Just look around for longer than 30 seconds on the X-wing 2nd ed site, and you will find a nifty rules reference that features the latest errata.

I can't tell if you're just trying to find stuff to be mad at or what, but there seems to be a lot of willful ignorance in this little rant of yours pal. I see plenty of effort on FFG's part. They put out FAQ's and Errata as soon as it was needed. they are shaking things up with points adjustments twice a year to prevent stagnation and NPE lists dominating the game. They have massively stepped up production of new components. They put out an official squad-builder that is updated with all the rules, formats, errata's, points adjustments, etc. and even has a custom format creator. What more should they do? And don't complain about "but how will I know what changed?" The game gets updated over time. that's the way it is. that's the way it's always been. it's a little more dramatic now, but that's what the app is for. it keeps track of the changes so we don't have to.

13 minutes ago, Damo1701 said:

"Slam the crew slot off and... er... stick a gunner on there. Fixed!"

No follow up about a severe lack of Imperial gunners, now, completely forgetting that there are 3 other pilots for the Phantom who benefit or combine well, but not as well as Vader did, to make interesting lists.

Yay. Fifth Brother....and, in a list with 3 phantoms..?

Something like 1 with 5th Brother, 1 with Bt-1, 1 empty, Vizier with Vader crew e.g. could be quite interesting to fly.

Get creative instead of salty.

10 minutes ago, Hippie Moosen said:

Just stop. Whining about SJW anything makes you sound like a 14 year old who's mad he hasn't gotten to see a lady nude yet. You're the old man yelling at kids to stay off his lawn when you whine about the SJW's. This one statement makes me think ur just trying to turn this thread into a flame war btw. Some grade A bait right there.

Strawman. If you want to participate in an adult conversation, than do not use logical fallacies. I am not 'whining', I am stating a fact. The star wars brand is hurting right now because of the SJW political agenda in their movies. This is true across their physical products as well as their digital products.

12 minutes ago, Hippie Moosen said:

The app isn't perfect but it does work, and has literally all of the info on the game you need to need to build a squad. I wont deny that it was pretty bad on day 1, but we aren't still living in 2018. Personally, I stopped having issues with the app long before Wave 2's release. Let it go already.

The app is inferior to all of the 3rd party app builders missing critical features. You are welcome to accept poor quality but I do not especially when there are free alternatives.

13 minutes ago, Hippie Moosen said:

Hyperspace is one of the main tournament formats. even hyperspace tournaments will have extended events as well. your anger over this ban is ridiculous. Extended is still very much alive, even if you say otherwise. There are things about Hyperspace we don't know yet, but we do know that it isn't the only way to play the game.

The devs stated that Hyperspace is their main focus. Nationals, regionals, and store champs will be in this format. Its only logical that this format will dominate as that is the direction FFG wants to go. Anyways, banning 90% of the cards is accurate. You like hyperspace, good for you. But much of the community does not and its a fact that hyperspace is dividing the community which furthers my point that the game is dying.

15 minutes ago, Hippie Moosen said:

There are 2 point adjustments each year. FAQ's and errata will continue to happen as needed. we already saw that happen BTW. we got FAQ's almost immediately after the games release. Just look around for longer than 30 seconds on the X-wing 2nd ed site, and you will find a nifty rules reference that features the latest errata.

Look at other competitive games especially in the digital space (x-wing is now in that space thanks to their app). Dota and AoV have several patches a month and sometimes multiples in the week. How many 'patches' have we seen in 2nd edition? One now and one in the rules (to clarify a few things). You really have to be joking if you think that is sufficient for a competitive format.

On top of all that, we don't even know why points were changed. The devs just said, there are too many changes to list the reasons why. Guess what that means? They are lazy and do not have the time or money to actually do what is needed.

18 minutes ago, Hippie Moosen said:

I can't tell if you're just trying to find stuff to be mad at or what, but there seems to be a lot of willful ignorance in this little rant of yours pal. I see plenty of effort on FFG's part. They put out FAQ's and Errata as soon as it was needed. they are shaking things up with points adjustments twice a year to prevent stagnation and NPE lists dominating the game. They have massively stepped up production of new components. They put out an official squad-builder that is updated with all the rules, formats, errata's, points adjustments, etc. and even has a custom format creator. What more should they do? And don't complain about "but how will I know what changed?" The game gets updated over time. that's the way it is. that's the way it's always been. it's a little more dramatic now, but that's what the app is for. it keeps track of the changes so we don't have to.

You are the one is wilfully ignorant. You are incapable of acknowledging the facts due to your cognitive dissonance. You are too invested in this hobby and star wars in general to acknowledge what is happening with the brand and what is happening with the miniatures game.

3 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

Strawman. If you want to participate in an adult conversation, than do not use logical fallacies  . I am not 'whining', I am stating a fact. The star wars brand is hurting right now because of the SJW political agenda in their movies. This is true across their physical products as well as their digital products.

I do not think the word “fact” means what you seem to think it means.

5 minutes ago, Rodafowa said:

I do not think the word “fact” means what you seem to think it means.

Sales of SW movies are down. Sales of physical toys of SW are down (Marvel toy sales are up). x-wing sales are down. Those are facts. Look at fans reviews of TLJ to understand. But feel free to believe what you want.

Seriously, don't let him bait you. Just press ignore and enjoy a better forum.

14 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

Strawman. If you want to participate in an adult conversation, than do not use logical fallacies. I am not 'whining', I am stating a fact. The star wars brand is hurting right now because of the SJW political agenda in their movies. This is true across their physical products as well as their digital products.

Translation: "You put a GIRL in my Star Wars!"

5 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

Sales of SW movies are down. Sales of physical toys of SW are down (Marvel toy sales are up). x-wing sales are down. Those are facts. Look at fans reviews of TLJ to understand. But feel free to believe what you want.

TLJ was my favorite of all the movies

honestly, I'm surprised Rexlar Brath is understanding this conversation, normally he's so confused, especially when it comes to topics like this.

8 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

Sales of SW movies are down. Sales of physical toys of SW are down (Marvel toy sales are up). x-wing sales are down. Those are facts. Look at fans reviews of TLJ to understand. But feel free to believe what you want.

Key word 'Fan Reviews' I liked the TLJ, I like that it was more inclusive. I'm going to play devil's advocate and say Star Wars toy sales are down because I don't know... Toys'R'us closed, there's no SW movie coming out and it's the end of January.

2 minutes ago, DailyRich said:

Translation: "You put a GIRL in my Star Wars!"

Like Princess Leia. Thanks for the Disney propaganda. Its exactly why the SW Brand is hurting. If you don't like the movies, you must be a masognostic white man. Got it. Now you can appreciate why Star Wars is losing money.

1 hour ago, Gallanteer said:

He should go onto the Armada....

Well...I mean....ya know...it...well...kinda....needs...something......something more then...oh....a single SSD.....that is slightly over priced.....to...oh attract current players to buy...more...

*cough cough* In other news....

You misspelled "misogynistic". You should probably fix that.

(also, where is the ignore button on this forum?)

Just now, DailyRich said:

Translation: "You put a GIRL in my Star Wars!"

“And this is DEFINITELY the reason that people aren’t buying as many toy stormtroopers. That is a FACT that I can in no way support or prove other than by only paying attention to a certain percentage of the reviews of one movie, whilst obviously ignoring the ones that don’t support my argument. THAT IS A FACT I TELL YOU.”

Just now, outerrimrebel said:

Key word 'Fan Reviews' I liked the TLJ, I like that it was more inclusive. I'm going to play devil advocate and say Star Wars toy sales are down because I don't know... Toys'R'us closed, there's no SW movie coming out and it's the end of January.

You would be correct except Marvel Toys sales are up. Marvel toys being up and SW toys being down disproves the theory that Toys R Us is effecting SW and not effecting Marvel.

Just now, Lace Jetstreamer said:

Like Princess Leia. Thanks for the Disney propaganda. Its exactly why the SW Brand is hurting. If you don't like the movies, you must be a masognostic white man. Got it. Now you can appreciate why Star Wars is losing money.

"You put a GIRL in MY Star Wars and she's NOT WEARING A METAL BIKINI!"

You've mis-used "effect" -- you meant to say "affect".

Just now, Lace Jetstreamer said:

Like Princess Leia. Thanks for the Disney propaganda. Its exactly why the SW Brand is hurting. If you don't like the movies, you must be a masognostic white man. Got it. Now you can appreciate why Star Wars is losing money.

Good, the first step is admitting you're an uneducated troglodyte.

I bet you're still upset they allow them minorities to have rights and drink at the same waterfountains as you.

click your username at the top of the screen, settings, ignored users.

2 minutes ago, XPav said:

You misspelled "misogynistic". You should probably fix that.

(also, where is the ignore button on this forum?)

Just now, XPav said:

(also, where is the ignore button on this forum?)

There are two ways to ignore a user:

1. Only on a computer, not on mobile: hover over the username. A box will appear where the bottom middle option is "ignore user"

2. This also works on mobile. Go to settings -> ignore users. Enter the name in the text box. A list of suggestions will appear. Select the one you want to ignore.

For both cases you can specify what exactly you want to ignore.

1 minute ago, StriderZessei said:

"You put a GIRL in MY Star Wars and she's NOT WEARING A METAL BIKINI!"

Episode 4 and 5 had no bikini. Episode 6 was my least favorite of the original trilogy. Leia was a strong female character who also developed throughout the series.

13 minutes ago, Lace Jetstreamer said:

Sales of SW movies are down. Sales of physical toys of SW are down (Marvel toy sales are up). x-wing sales are down. Those are facts. Look at fans reviews of TLJ to understand. But feel free to believe what you want.

I love TLJ. I'll buy it twice just for the salt scene.