I was excited to see the first Vault Tour stop is in Seattle, and immediately added it to my calendar, only to realize it was Saturday at Emerald City Comicon. Saturday tickets sold out to ECC in October, before Keyforge was even launched.

Then finals are played Sunday, which means another ECC ticket you only need if you win. Sunday isn't currently sold out, but will be soon.

This looks like a great event, but how could anyone be expected to plan to participate when it sold out before it was announced? Has there been any consideration in holding this events outside the Con, in one of the many local event locations?

I have attended a number of competitive and high profile events in Seattle before, and never have they been locked behind a sold out convention ticket.

Same here. Would have loved to be able to play this event, but, I'm not shelling out aftermarket prices to get a Saturday ticket.

I loathe events that are held behind cons. I could understand games with cash pay outs or really big prizes, but, there is none of that in this event.

Seattle has plenty of venues to play these things outside of the con.

I tweeted FFG about this. I also wrote up a long, respectfully worded email that I sent to someone involved with Keyforge development and asked them to pass along.

I am told that the exact same thing happened when Star Wars: Destiny was launched-- the game was thriving locally, but attendance at Comic Con was very sparse, since tickets were sold out before any Destiny fans knew to try to buy them. (I cannot personally vouch for this, but I have no reason to suspect the person that told me was lying.)

It's super dissappointing. I would have taken 2 days of vacation and made this one of the highlights of my year, played in every tournament they ran that I could squeeze into. Instead, I can't even buy scalped tickets, because they're non-transferrable-- you need to join their waiting list for the right to buy tickets at double face value and then hope enough people cancel their plans. And if you are willing to pay double, and you do put your name on the waiting list early enough, you just buy the right to attend some tournaments that presumably won't be well attended because not very many other people are going to be willing/able to do the same thing.

If they had at least done it for a gaming convention, many people that might want to attend the Keyforge tournaments may have already bought tickets to the convention. There's much less overlap in people that bought tickets to a Comic convention and people who want to make a major time commitment to playing Keyforge instead of going to the comic related events.

I really dislike when they put tournaments at cons. If its a game con at least it makes some kind of sense even if it is a bad idea. If I'm gonna buy a ticket to a game con its going to be to see the exhibit hall and try all the new things, and panels if there are any on topics I am interested in. Buying a ticket to a game con that you wont even be able to use cause you are playing in an event means that they have effectively placed a (usually expensive) tax on the tournament. Most people will already have to travel and pay for sleeping accommodations. Why tax them further with a con ticket they wont even get to use for the con?

And comic cons? Really? Now your just slapping the players in the face with a huge tax to an event that may not even be relevant to them. If you are interested in the comic con then you don't have time for tournament. If you are not interested, well see the paragraph above. It's the same issue by makes even less sense than a gaming con.

I understand that there is overlap, but as it is most comic cons already hit capacity months before they are held. They are always over crowded, hot as ****, and noisy to boot. If you are holding the tournament in a hall other than where the comic con is (which has to happen for most cons) then why even have it at the con in the first place?

I'm in the same boat. I was considering buying tickets to that event a while ago, but at the time it was only "Pods of Discovery" and I'm like "I'm not going to travel to another state to destroy some new players with my hundreds of games of experience."

Agreed. I thought the prize wall concept was pretty cool until I realized that there is no realistic opportunity for me to see a prize wall anytime soon. These events are so infrequent and so spread out that they might as well not exist.

2 hours ago, KrisWall said:

Agreed. I thought the prize wall concept was pretty cool until I realized that there is no realistic opportunity for me to see a prize wall anytime soon. These events are so infrequent and so spread out that they might as well not exist.

But just think you'll have so much AEmber saved up by the time you do see a prize wall, you can get one of everything!

3 hours ago, CorayThan said:

I'm in the same boat. I was considering buying tickets to that event a while ago, but at the time it was only "Pods of Discovery" and I'm like "I'm not going to travel to another state to destroy some new players with my hundreds of games of experience."

Just remember: They likely have hundreds of games of experience with their decks too....so saddle up.

3 hours ago, KrisWall said:

Agreed. I thought the prize wall concept was pretty cool until I realized that there is no realistic opportunity for me to see a prize wall anytime soon. These events are so infrequent and so spread out that they might as well not exist.

Let's hope you can do a mail order on the prizes.

13 hours ago, Amanal said:

Let's hope you can do a mail order on the prizes.

That would be ideal. However, given that they've never done it before, I'm not expecting it to start soon.

Someone on the Seattle Keyforge Facebook page is claiming you don't need a ticket to the Con in order to play in the Keyforge tournaments. He says he knows someone with Cascade Games, who are running the events. I'll update again if/when I get confirmation.

The Cascade Game event webpage for Emerald City Comic Con has been updated to reflect the fact that YOU DO NOT NEED A COMIC CON BADGE to participate in their FFG events.

I'm not sure if this was always the case, or if this is in response to the feedback they or FFG got about this, but either way I think it's great.

Event web page that has the update: https://www.cascadegames.com/#show/ECCC2019/KeyForge

Awesome! Thank you Andrew. This was definitely an update (maybe not to policy but to the webpage) as I had checked their site and emailed them about this issue as well. Looks like I am going.

On 1/22/2019 at 8:49 PM, andrew144 said:

I tweeted FFG about this. I also wrote up a long, respectfully worded email that I sent to someone involved with Keyforge development and asked them to pass along.

I am told that the exact same thing happened when Star Wars: Destiny was launched-- the game was thriving locally, but attendance at Comic Con was very sparse, since tickets were sold out before any Destiny fans knew to try to buy them. (I cannot personally vouch for this, but I have no reason to suspect the person that told me was lying.)

It's super dissappointing. I would have taken 2 days of vacation and made this one of the highlights of my year, played in every tournament they ran that I could squeeze into. Instead, I can't even buy scalped tickets, because they're non-transferrable-- you need to join their waiting list for the right to buy tickets at double face value and then hope enough people cancel their plans. And if you are willing to pay double, and you do put your name on the waiting list early enough, you just buy the right to attend some tournaments that presumably won't be well attended because not very many other people are going to be willing/able to do the same thing.

If they had at least done it for a gaming convention, many people that might want to attend the Keyforge tournaments may have already bought tickets to the convention. There's much less overlap in people that bought tickets to a Comic convention and people who want to make a major time commitment to playing Keyforge instead of going to the comic related events.

Same problem here. The worst part is that it’s not even a gaming convention. I was at a Comic Con with the Destiny stuff, but I couldn’t go because I wanted to see all the comic people and celebs too.

if they could do a seperate event just for it it would be so much better.