Schola Progenium

By Face Eater, in Dark Heresy

Is it mentioned anywhere which worlds in the Calixis sector are / house Schola Progenia? I don't remember seeing any mentioned and you would have thought that it would have been included in the planets description.

If not are there any as un-described Imperial worlds that could be nominated.

i would have to suspect that obviously the main worlds of the Calaxis has a schola progenium. worlds like Scintilla or Malfi main military worlds. or worlds like Sinophia having a blighted schola (idk just fits i think)

Nah, blighted schola was a specific program. No one would entrust such an important initiative to Sinophia . It's not the same as having a "bad" one.

I think any planet with a significant Imperial presence has a facility. All the major hive worlds probably have them and I'd think worlds with major things like the Chancellery Court on Solomon would have them. Every subsector capital at a minimum would have ones, I think.

The only one that I think is actually mentioned is ... Maccabeous Quintus (IH), which is interesting.

Face Eater said:

I don't remember seeing any mentioned and you would have thought that it would have been included in the planets description .

I don´t think that it would be mentioned unless it is very huge or has great renown. The Schola Progenium are something like a state-run orphanage mixed with a para-military young-men-boot-camp and an all-day-school. I suppose that on every "civilizied" world you will find at leat one of them in any major town.

It's only state run for the Orphans of important Imperial personel, military comanders, rogue traders and the like. I imagine on most worlds an Orphan would have to deal with it themselves unless a charitable organisation ran a squalid orphange or a mercantile dynasty ran workhouse (child labour laws ha ha).

And the fact that there are some worlds entirely given over to Schola Progenium means that they centralise them. After all, could you really trust some local authority to properly brainwash your children for you. I think not.

I'll look up Maccabeus Quintus when I get home though. From what I remember of it, it seems like the kind of place I'd imagine you'd have one.

Face Eater said:

It's only state run for the Orphans of important Imperial personel, military comanders, rogue traders and the like.



Which makes sense to me: important people tend to have "other hands" their offsprings ends up with (together with their heirdom which has to be administrated...).

In addition, imagine the logistical effort which would be needed if their wouldn´t be a "schola" on every civilized world. It´s already hell if you think about this "psyker to terra" thing. No imagine "every orphan (or "important orphan", if I stick to your view) to from subsector X to world y).

"Madness".

Then there's the fact that INQ article on Scholas mentions how noble families of the Imperium tend to legally "orphan" their children to get them the best education and career entry the Imperium can offer.

in our games the Gm has the Schola Progenium monks and drill abbots actively leading searches for young orphans who may be "lost" amidst society and in some cases forcibly taking them from unfit parents. Slightly creepy and orwellian but well in keeping with the Imperium i think.

Of course one of our groups first investigations was kidnapping of children for use as chaos sacrifices which operated under a progenium cover.. it was ace because my guardsman is Schola raised and it immediately threw the groups suspicion at me... much good roleplaying abounded...

S.K.

Schola Progenum aren't that rare. Considering the number of orphans the Imperium is producing each year I would think pretty much every larger imperial world has one or more. Remember that Schola Progenum train so many important officials of the Imperium (many Clerics regardless of their rank or function, most Imperial Guard Stormtroopers, Inquisitorial Stormtroopers and many others) that there has to be literally hundreds of them in each sector just to keep the Imperium running.

It's not really a matter of rarity as such. The same number could be drawn from a single building on every single inhabited world or same number could be raised on a single planet wide scholar. By the description it just says that children of people that die in service of the Imperium, which could be almost anyone. Although the background table is far more limiting.

I just had the image that weren't on everyone but a number of very large instiutions across the sector. I don't think logistics is an issue as they have both cematary worlds and prison planets. I'd be willing to believe, most civilised worlds but it seems that there isn't really a lot of information one way or another.

I like the fact that Schola Progena locations haven't been specified. That way you can make them as rare or as ubiquitous as you want without radically altering the rest of the setting.

Places where I, personally, would expect a Schola to pop up would be: any major administrative centre, military-run areas, and shrine worlds (and other sites of great significance to the Imperial Creed. Hive planets would probably have them as well simply because of their massive populations and industrial might (plenty of Imperial logistics personnel, if nothing else). On the other hand, the Creed has a somewhat aggressive proselytising approach to religion, so small Schola might well pop up on frontier worlds as well.

The one place where Scholae are unlikely is the forge world, due to rather obvious problems of tradition, religion and jurisdiction. Navy bases near forge worlds, on the other hand...

MuadMouse said:

I like the fact that Schola Progena locations haven't been specified. That way you can make them as rare or as ubiquitous as you want without radically altering the rest of the setting...

That is true, although I think it would help if they had decided where the major ones are.

And I have, pretty much, been thinking along the same lines you for the types of planets.

I had always thought that they were usually Imperial worlds rather than Hive worlds as you want to isolate the inhabitants from the general populous alhtough you could do by having it's own spire easily. I still think that politcally they would probably not site one on Scintilla as they'd want to keep it out of Haxes influence.

MuadMouse said:

Places where I, personally, would expect a Schola to pop up would be: any major administrative centre, military-run areas, and shrine worlds (and other sites of great significance to the Imperial Creed. Hive planets would probably have them as well simply because of their massive populations and industrial might (plenty of Imperial logistics personnel, if nothing else). On the other hand, the Creed has a somewhat aggressive proselytising approach to religion, so small Schola might well pop up on frontier worlds as well.

The two places I've set Schola Progenium facilities so far have been on the frontier world of Ysai Ydumee (where my sister-militant character hails from) and the hiveworld Alactra (a pregenerated honourably-discharged stormtrooper who I've yet to use for anything yet)

The facility on Alactra I figure was more of an academy-style affair, much like any defense-force university (for example, ADFA for anyone from Australia), but with an obviously 40k-related extra degree or two of harshness and religious indoctrination.

The one of Ysai Ydumee I expect would be much the same, what with the Imperium liking to keep their instituations relatively similar across the board for ease of simplicity, but slightly more minimalist and with more of an 'outdoors' or military survival-camp focus due to being likely isolated from the rest of the population and in the middle of nowhere on the surface. I'd expect more soldiers (general purpose, not stormtroopers) and less administraum personnel to come from here, due to the assumed reduction in specialised technology and focus on outdoors or 'primitive' training.