28 minutes ago, DarthSempai said:

Yeah the use I can see is, for example, baffling Tavson in the end phase, coordinating a focus to Quickdraw, end of turn. The focus token stays on quickdraw. Then, during next turn, coordinating a focus to quickdraw, with tavson. Note that quickdraw didn't do 2 of the same action in one turn, but still ends up with 2 focus, and her own action. That's pretty neat. There's a lot of stuff like that you can do.

And you can do that every other round, as neither QD nor Tavison can do the same action twice a round, in exchange for a damage, after getting stress on Tavison. It's a neat trick to be sure, but I don't see it as abusive.

true. I didn't think it'd be abusive either, I tried tavson + quickdraw + generic SF, and my opinion was that a Squad Leader Null was probably as good a coordinate platform, for much cheaper, if all you want is the coordinate. Even though I manage to point tavson at an enemy ship almost every turn, as soon as quickdraw died, the game was essentially over because I would get quickly outmaneuvered and Tavson can't turn to save his life.

Or come into the first engagement with a double reinforce... joust me!

12 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:

I'm failing to see the issue here. He can float one green token in exchange for one damage. He is still unable to do the same action twice in one turn, so any double coordinate "issues" are limited to every other turn.

I don’t think anyone is saying it’s OP or abusive or anything- at least, * I’m not claiming that. But it IS a funky trick with some crazy ramifications that are worth exploring.

*(However, I do think that it is better than simply performing the same action multiple rounds in a row, simply because you can time it so that you get your double focus/reinforce/reposition/ etc on the most critical round(s) and get more mileage out of your actions that way. For example, in the game I played, my friend used this trick to double barrel-roll Blackout, getting him into the position he wanted next round for a range 1 shot with no return fire. Overpowered? No. Useful? Definitely.)

While we’re talking about Tavson, what is the consensus on using his ability multiple times during one attack. He says “A  fter  you su  ffer damag  e, you may spend 1 [charge] to perform an action ,” but what exactly does “after you suffer damage” mean?

Specifically, say Tavson gets shot at and takes 2 damage from a single attack and both his charges are active. Can he trigger his ability twice- once per uncancelled attack die? Or just once- after all the damage has been resolved?

Only once. The once per opportunity rule comes into play.

12 minutes ago, Roundy1161 said:

Only once. The once per opportunity rule comes into play.

That's incorrect in this case.

Damage is assigned one at a time. Thus if you suffer two or more damage, you can spend both charges. Each instance of suffering a damage card triggers it.

Hmmms, I'm not so sure, but it could work that way as well.

Reading the rules, you are correct that it does say each damage is suffered individually.

Presumably it would trigger in the aftermath step of the attack... even though the rules don't specify for abilities like that... but maybe not.

If you can pop both for 2 damage it is better than I've been using it for!

4 hours ago, Roundy1161 said:

Hmmms, I'm not so sure, but it could work that way as well.

Reading the rules, you are correct that it does say each damage is suffered individually.

Presumably it would trigger in the aftermath step of the attack... even though the rules don't specify for abilities like that... but maybe not.

If you can pop both for 2 damage it is better than I've been using it for!

It’s already limited by charges and there are two, so that makes it tough to presume exact intent here.

The rules reference says “when a ship suffers damage, that damage is suffered one at a time.”

I could see that being taken either way, personally. I think I want to say that the “when a ship suffers damage” wording here parallels Tavison’s wording in such a way that he can only do it once per attack? (Or other source of multiple damage)

But I get reading it the other way, too.

4 hours ago, SpiderMana said:

The rules reference says “when a ship suffers damage, that damage is suffered one at a time.”

I could see that being taken either way, personally. I think I want to say that the “when a ship suffers damage” wording here parallels Tavison’s wording in such a way that he can only do it once per attack? (Or other source of multiple damage)

But I get reading it the other way, too.

Looking at hate I feel that tavson only gets 1 action per damage source

I think Hate is an indication that he does get one action per damage, otherwise the ability should have been worder like Hate

On the topic of "when you suffer damage" how about Maul for comparison:

The stress discourages multiple use a bit, but maybe that's an intentional limitation in the design. Has anyone heard of Maul being rules as once per attack vs. once per single damage?