There will be fresh canon ships as the year rolls on and theres plenty of backlog of old canon ships that will be redone in a black box.

But do we really expect to see the obscure and wierd EU stuff we used to have ever see the shelf again.

And...is that really a bad thing or a good thing?

What I mean is,let's take an example the tie aggressor. There are enough things more appropriate like interceptors and bombers and lambda ,taps,defenders to be done after the striker comes back.

That's a lot of waves to buffer before newer Disney material like that wierd tie tumor from solo movie and any imperial things from new tv shows and movies to do before some bizarre EU aggressor ever gets looked at again.

So , I think the aggressor will never be blacked.

Same for things like the E wing, scyk, gunboats,starvipers.

What say YOU?

3 minutes ago, Velvetelvis said:

What  say YOU?  

No. 🤷‍♂️

I'm glad you said it first. Because I fully expect this.

I think some ships will be so far down the line, they will "forget" to be converted, and by then, no one will much care.

Moreover, I think a new ship could come along that "needs" to be made for 2.0, and then the 1.0 ship would be the one competing for "duplicate design space" (not that I really consider that a thing}.

Overall, more good than bad (I want new ships}, but mostly just a thing in the life of a game.

Yeah.. not forgotten... just. Not really having a place. Or needing gbto be there.

16 minutes ago, Velvetelvis said:

So  , I t  hink the aggressor will never be blacked.

Same for things like the E wing, scyk, gunboats,starvipers  .    

Likelihood of never returning

TIE/ag

Scyk

Gunboat

E-wing

Star viper

Id put the SV at around 90% to return within a year/ year and a half tops, the AG maybe 40-50 in about 3 years.

slot the rest accordingly.

7 minutes ago, Velvetelvis said:

Yeah.. not forgotten... just. Not really having a place.

I know this game is not meant to be collectible, and everyone should have even access.

But would it really be bad if some ships had a couple years of a run then were dropped from production?

Sure, everything would have to stay legal for Extended, but as the years roll by, it would be kinda cool if players had signature ships based on the temporal evolution of the game. "Dude, that guy has E-Wings!! He's old-school" or "Yeah, I picked up the Scyk when I first started. It's been a few years since you could get one."

Here's the list of Legends-only ships:

• TIE/ph Phantom
• E-Wing ( YES I KNOW IT WAS IN THE POE DAMERON COMIC AND I DONT CARE, THAT DOESNT COUNT )
• VT-49 Decimator
• Aggressor Assault Fighter
• M3-A Interceptor
• StarViper-class Attack Platform
• TIE/ca Punisher
• BTL-S8 K-Wing
• Kihraxz Fighter
• G-1A Starfighter
• JumpMaster 5000
• TIE/ag Aggressor
• Scurrg H-6 Bomber
• Alpha-class Star Wing
• M12-L Kimogila Fighter

Popular ships (Hi Guri!) and those with unique mechanics (Hi Brobots!) are a higher chance to do, but.... really, how many of these will people miss?

On the other hand, FFG has all they need to produce these ships: model is already there from 1st edition, 2nd edition dials, cards and bases are also there since they did conversion kits.

While the deep EU ships are likely not a high priority for FFG, I think it's possible they might use them as 'filler' for releases. If there is nothing new Imperial planned for a while, just package the exististing Gunboat stuff in a 2nd edition package and call it a day.

Edit: Also, there isn't all that much announced new material for the OT time-frame, only the Cassian Andor series IIRC. If FFG wants to constantly release stuff for Rebels and Imperials, they'll have to go back to the EU at some point.

Other things of notes:

• of the 15 Legends ships released, only 4 of them were released after Disny / Force Awakens / Rebels started up.
• Waves 4-8 were all EU stuff, with a few of them being pulled into Neucanon via Rebels.
• We've got 7 original trilogy ships still up needing to be re-released.

So uhhh... yeah, don't hold out for that M12-L Kimogila!

2 minutes ago, XPav said:

E-Wing ( YES I KNOW IT WAS IN THE POE DAMERON COMIC AND I DONT CARE, THAT DOESNT COUNT )

Why wouldn't this count? It's a currently produced comic, in the new canon.

Personally, I don't see any of these fading out- there doesn't seem to be too many new canon stories set in the Galactic Civil war era, most seem focused on the time between the OT and sequels (the Mandolorian/Resistance), and further from there (the movie trilogy spin-off). I think that we will see FFG keeping the old EU ships for the original three factions, while the actual new ships we get are going to be mainly from the sequel era (new Resistance/FO/Scum ships) and the prequels.

Just now, Ikka said:

Why wouldn't this count? It's a currently produced comic, in the new canon.

Because it's literally ONE tiny view, not flown, in the corner of a panel, in a comic. It's not even called an E-Wing. This is it.

I don't think that's an E-Wing, it's an M13-P Blugzuhrag. YOU CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG.

3 minutes ago, XPav said:

Because it's literally ONE tiny view, not flown, in the corner of a panel, in a comic. It's not even called an E-Wing. This is it.

I don't think that's an E-Wing, it's an M13-P Blugzuhrag. YOU CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG.

Pfft. Everyone knows that the Blugzuhrag has two cannons over the cockpit. Except the ones on Alderaan, which only had one cannon, but that's hardly the livery of the Alderaan Home Guard!

I think it'll really come down to how long the game runs. Some releases will get higher priority than others, but I think everything will eventually get re-released eventually, assuming the game doesn't die or get rebooted before then .

Also, I think the Star Wing will be fairly high up on the Empire's release list, considering how much of a following it has. I'd be surprised if it knocked out any canon ships, but definitely before most of the rest of the EU stuff.

20 minutes ago, XPav said:

how many of these will people miss?

Being as you listed over half of the current ships in the Scum faction? I'm smelling a ban wish list...

1 minute ago, JJ48 said:

I think it'll really come down to how long the game runs. Some releases will get higher priority than others, but I think everything will eventually get re-released eventually, assuming the game doesn't die or get rebooted before then .

I wonder what the negotiations with Disney/Lucasfilm licensing are like. Did they get a blanket "ok, fine, you can release the old legends ships you already made" or will they be chatting up in 5 years with "E-Wing? What the **** is an E-Wing? What the **** is Dark Empire? Who drew this crap? When is this from? 1991? That's older than I am! Get out of my office!"

1 minute ago, XPav said:

Because it's literally ONE tiny view, not flown, in the corner of a panel, in a comic. It's not even called an E-Wing. This is it.

I don't think that's an E-Wing, it's an M13-P Blugzuhrag. YOU CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG.

Looks like an E-wing to me, dumb cockpit cannon and all.

Not trying to prove anybody wrong. I simply think that it doesn't make any sort of sense, production-wise (wasting time/money making new models when there are already available molds made) or game-wise (unless the new ship is exactly the same as an old EU ship in stats), to not re-release the old EU ships. It lets FFG concentrate more on upcoming new ships, either in-house designed or in collaboration with the Mouse's new movies. The old EU ships can be added in each Wave much like the Striker and Z-95 in Wave 3 (the Z-95 itself not featured in any new canon movies/TV shows, just the novels), as filler for the original factions which do not have any new content coming out.

Z-95 is a good case (let's ignore that it's been around in Star Wars lore forever and kinda is in Clone Wars in a different form). So after 3 waves, we've gotten 1 EU ship. Assuming we're at 4 waves per year, we've got... 7 years or 15 years depending on whether they release 1 or 2 EU ships a year to get them all.

8 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

Being as you listed over half of the current ships in the Scum faction? I'm smelling a ban wish list...

Resistance, the Mandalorian, and the Cassian Show seem to be ones that will generate LOTS of Scum-type ships.

2 minutes ago, XPav said:

Z-95 is a good case (let's ignore that it's been around in Star Wars lore forever and kinda is in Clone Wars in a different form). So after 3 waves, we've gotten 1 EU ship. Assuming we're at 4 waves per year, we've got... 7 years or 15 years depending on whether they release 1 or 2 EU ships a year to get them all.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Z-95_Headhunter

Its Canon...

10 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

Being as you listed over half of the current ships in the Scum faction? I'm smelling a ban wish list...

Scum is a relatively hard faction to get ships for, since most movie ships tend to fit into the two main factions of the era.

35 minutes ago, XPav said:

Here's the list of Legends-only ships:

• TIE/ph Phantom
• E-Wing ( YES I KNOW IT WAS IN THE POE DAMERON COMIC AND I DONT CARE, THAT DOESNT COUNT )
• VT-49 Decimator
• Aggressor Assault Fighter
• M3-A Interceptor
• StarViper-class Attack Platform
• TIE/ca Punisher
• BTL-S8 K-Wing
• Kihraxz Fighter
• G-1A Starfighter
• JumpMaster 5000
• TIE/ag Aggressor
• Scurrg H-6 Bomber
• Alpha-class Star Wing
• M12-L Kimogila Fighter

Popular ships (Hi Guri!) and those with unique mechanics (Hi Brobots!) are a higher chance to do, but.... really, how many of these will people miss?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mist_Hunter

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha-class_Xg-1_Star_Wing

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/VT-49_Decimator

13 minutes ago, Matanui3 said:

Scum is a relatively hard faction to get ships for, since most movie ships tend to fit into the two main factions of the era.

🤨 Depends how strongly FFG wants to adhere to "faction identity"... Rebel (and soon Republic, maybe Separatist hardliners, their manned smaller ships are fair game) players would very likely be screaming if FFG went with what was realistic while sticking with Canon only.

22 minutes ago, XPav said:

Z-95 is a good case (let's ignore that it's been around in Star Wars lore forever and kinda is in Clone Wars in a different form). So after 3 waves, we've gotten 1 EU ship. Assuming we're at 4 waves per year, we've got... 7 years or 15 years depending on whether they release 1 or 2 EU ships a year to get them all.

Well, the Z-95 may have existed for ever, but as i've not seen any of the cartoons, all i can say, is OTHER than novels, and the RPGs, i've not seen it in films..

1 hour ago, XPav said:

Because it's literally ONE tiny view, not flown, in the corner of a panel, in a comic. It's not even called an E-Wing. This is it.

I don't think that's an E-Wing, it's an M13-P Blugzuhrag. YOU CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG.

I do feel as though the E-wing depiction in the Poe comics was more of an Easter egg than any serious canon commitment, which isn’t to say that it isn’t canon, but that it’s canon may have changed. Like Thrawn; his new canon is based off of the old canon character, but certainly his story and introduction are wildly different now given that the Thrawn trilogy just didn’t happen. Similarly, the E-wing, if it exists in the new canon, may never have been a widely adopted fighter of the New Republic, but maybe just a prototype or experimental fighter Incom was working on before scrapping the design and moving on to the T-Whatever X-Wing.

But to answer the OP; I feel like we’ll still see everything released, at some point. As stated earlier, all the figures and dials are there, and releasing them with simultaneous new ships gives FFG breathing room to focus on the design space for newer ships.

I’d possibly even be down for interesting repaints or resculpts; heck, I have WAY more Z-95’s and M3’s than I could possibly field, but a shiny new paint job? I might pick up another.

5 minutes ago, stuffedskullcat said:

I do feel as though the E-wing depiction in the Poe comics was more of an Easter egg than any serious canon commitment, which isn’t to say that it isn’t canon, but that it’s canon may have changed.

But is the cannon canon, or is it canon sans cannon?

1 hour ago, Hiemfire said:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha-class_Xg-1_Star_Wing       

Rebel ships?! Lies, deceptions!

3 hours ago, Velvetelvis said:

let's  take an example the tie a  ggresso  r  

Currently the only Imperial ship with a turret slot so in game fills a unique slot in the Imperial fleet. Pretty sure it’ll get re-released... at some point. If the TIE/rb gets a turret slot this may push it release but I see it more as a TIE/sf precursor and so may only be able to fire front and back (and even then I’m really not sure if those canons move at all 😆 ).