Just now, Matt3412 said:

So help me out here guys

D1

We had an early train on POD

When and why did LTD get fingered and by whom?

We know LTD was town so that's making me more suspicious of POD, why?

I Feel like scum would have gone with the flow and hammered him, especially since pod was at L-2 for so long.

I pointed out that I doubted it was a fully town wagon (I was actually right about that as LP was 3rd party)

Others then pushed LTD as being the most scummy on the wagon due to the follow, I think mad and clon were the big pushes but i'd have to re-read

1 minute ago, Matt3412 said:

So help me out here guys

D1

We had an early train on POD

When and why did LTD get fingered and by whom?

We know LTD was town so that's making me more suspicious of POD, why?

I Feel like scum would have gone with the flow and hammered him, especially since pod was at L-2 for so long.

When LTD voted me D1 at the time it felt opportunistic, and I retaliated. However on deeper analysis of my wagon I decided it was more likely a town motivated wagon and Town read those voting me.

Players had ample time to vote LTD, for the same reasons I did, but only chose to act after I moved to push interest elsewhere

On 1/18/2019 at 7:35 PM, LTD said:

I am Spartacus.

Also, town.

Im sick of the Pod - Ebon stupidity, so I’m voting Pod. Enough of this crap.

## vote PodRacer

On 1/19/2019 at 5:36 PM, Bertie Wooster said:

So LTD, are you going after Pod or no? It looks a little odd when you're defending Pod and voting for him at the same time.

Also @The Jabbawookie I think Pod's vote is on LTD, not Ebon.

On 1/20/2019 at 11:44 AM, PodRacer said:

I'm working an angle that the voters for me are more likely town. Even if not they've given input.

Gnips played devils advocate early in pod vs ebon, safe place to get input without having to take a stand.

Clons posts are known in the trade as information instead of analysis. Don't think they have voted yet.

So yeah, strongest town reads are gonna be LTD, LP, Matt. Missing out on a podium place but well hidden in the peloton Ebon Hawk won't be getting a vote from me today at least.

gonna

##unvote

##vote Clontroper

On 1/20/2019 at 12:18 PM, LTD said:

Well I’ll be asleep when the time ends.

## unvote

## vote clontroper5 because we need a lynch of some kind.

On 1/20/2019 at 2:24 PM, Bertie Wooster said:

I see that LTD never answered my question, he just shifted his vote to clon with little explanation.

I think out of everything in D1, LTD and Matt voting for Pod just because they're sick of the Ebon and Pod drama, makes little sense to me. I mean yes, D1 voting is kinda random, but they haven't given sufficient reason for thinking Pod was scum.

LTD seems more suspicious than Matt, given that Matt voted first and LTD followed for similar reasons.

##vote LTD

On 1/20/2019 at 2:55 PM, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

The reason I haven't stated intent is because up till now I have been unsure. However, with time running out I must vote, so shall

##vote LTD

Because he seems like the most suspicious of those who have posted enough to get a read on, for arguments put forth above by others. It is only a slight suspicion though.

On 1/20/2019 at 3:19 PM, Madaghmire said:

I’m most suspicious of Ebon, his whole interaction struck me as scum Ebon, now trying to walk it back to town Ebon.

Seemingly tho, I’m alone in that assesment as I read through this. Matt seems to still like Pod, and while I don’t hate it, I don’t love it either.

I have to re-evaluate Clons game and decide if I like Pod’s “information vs analysis” basis.

On 1/20/2019 at 3:22 PM, Madaghmire said:

Eh, Clons game doesn’t bother me so much.

I prefer LTD I think, because I believe Gnips was onto something regarding there likely being a scum on the early Pod train, and of the possibilities he strikes me as most likely.

##vote LTD

On 1/20/2019 at 4:13 PM, clontroper5 said:

Well looks like time is a ticking. I personally think Pod is not scum based on my day one reads.

Un sure about LTD so....

##vote @LTD

this is how LTD got to L-1

4 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

I pointed out that I doubted it was a fully town wagon (I was actually right about that as LP was 3rd party)

Others then pushed LTD as being the most scummy on the wagon due to the follow, I think mad and clon were the big pushes but i'd have to re-read

Just reread this the first three votes on POD were

ME, LTD, LP

i'm the only one left alive

Scum clearly pushed LTD

and then KILLED LP in the night.

I think this clearly puts pod as suspicious and i will use my voice now. [My theory is Scum always does the easy/obvious thing not the hard thing]

##vote @PodRacer

On 1/18/2019 at 8:25 PM, clontroper5 said:

Anyway difference opinions aside it was explicitly asked for which is why I posted that I am Town.

Right now I think Ebon is being overly Aggressive and Antagonistic, which is normally charartoistic of his Scum play. So I'm leaning on voting him right now

On 1/19/2019 at 11:29 PM, clontroper5 said:

Well I have little to add other then what has been said, perhaps if their is time later I will do some breakdowns of what has been said. But for now I am inclined to follow one of the other trians.

What is the votecount/time?

On 1/19/2019 at 11:32 PM, clontroper5 said:

Although I will say I have been very unimpressed with Ebon so far....

On 1/19/2019 at 11:39 PM, clontroper5 said:

Apologies I thought there was more votes on LTD

On 1/20/2019 at 4:07 AM, clontroper5 said:

You edited it a post!! Mod!

On 1/20/2019 at 9:37 AM, clontroper5 said:

How much time do we have?

On 1/20/2019 at 3:19 PM, Madaghmire said:

I’m most suspicious of Ebon, his whole interaction struck me as scum Ebon, now trying to walk it back to town Ebon.

Seemingly tho, I’m alone in that assesment as I read through this. Matt seems to still like Pod, and while I don’t hate it, I don’t love it either.

I have to re-evaluate Clons game and decide if I like Pod’s “information vs analysis” basis.

On 1/20/2019 at 4:11 PM, clontroper5 said:

FYI, I agree with you about Ebon personally

See above quote from mad

On 1/20/2019 at 4:13 PM, clontroper5 said:

Well looks like time is a ticking. I personally think Pod is not scum based on my day one reads.

Un sure about LTD so....

##vote @LTD

On 1/20/2019 at 4:14 PM, clontroper5 said:

And I suspect I won't be able to post again until after hammer/nightfall so good luck everyone!

On 1/20/2019 at 6:02 PM, clontroper5 said:

Literally the last game you were scum...re read it, you were extremely aggressive day 1 and day 2 and so you got Lynched

22 hours ago, clontroper5 said:

Hmm, what do we make of the @EbonHawk doll?

he spends his whole game either shading me, looking to shade me, or jumping onto others shade off me... yet has not put a single vote on me yet

fyi that is clons whole game, way to look scum

2 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

Just reread this the first three votes on POD were

ME, LTD, LP

i'm the only one left alive

Scum clearly pushed LTD

and then KILLED LP in the night.

I think this clearly puts pod as suspicious and i will use my voice now. [My theory is Scum always does the easy/obvious thing not the hard thing]

##vote @PodRacer

Note they pushed LTD only after Pod voted Clon, that is telling as well

3 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

Just reread this the first three votes on POD were

ME, LTD, LP

i'm the only one left alive

Scum clearly pushed LTD

and then KILLED LP in the night.

I think this clearly puts pod as suspicious and i will use my voice now. [My theory is Scum always does the easy/obvious thing not the hard thing]

##vote @PodRacer

also LP finished on Callum, and like I said in say start I feel scum wanted to set me up today and killing LP (who you all know we have a thing) is a great 'ebon kill' as it were IMO

On 1/18/2019 at 6:59 PM, Bertie Wooster said:

I had a thought. Jabba's post suggested that he'll be reusing roles we've already seen in previous games.

What if Lie Detector is out there? If that's the case, it would be helpful for everyone to make an "I am town" statement for Lie Detector to analyze.

For example: I and Madaghmire are town.

also this pinged again on a re-read, as I'm not town reading bert atm, and he and mad have played similar games it's odd he picks both himself and mad as town

The only thing holding me back on Mad being scum is he's smart enough to spot the breadcrumbs yesterday and thus would never have killed LP.

So makes me think it's a bertie/clon team

On 1/20/2019 at 4:13 PM, clontroper5 said:

Well looks like time is a ticking. I personally think Pod is not scum based on my day one reads.

Un sure about LTD so....

##vote @LTD

out of all the votes though clons makes 0 sense, pod isn't a scum read and he's unsure on LTD.. so why not vote me? the guy he's called scum in about 3-4 posts basically?

Town clon would've pushed me, LTD vote is saving his skin D1.

13 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

So help me out here guys

D1

We had an early train on POD

When and why did LTD get fingered and by whom?

We know LTD was town so that's making me more suspicious of POD, why?

I Feel like scum would have gone with the flow and hammered him, especially since pod was at L-2 for so long.

It would have looked a little shady if two scum hammered Pod at the tail end though, if Pod is town.

Clon seems townish to me, or maybe third party. I feel like he comes across as more confident when he's scum, and I haven't seen that in him this game. But I have to agree with the consensus that his contributions this game haven't been helpful so far.

I thought LTD and (to a lesser degree) Ebon were scummy, but I was wrong about LTD and almost certainly Ebon. If no better train than clon forms, I will vote for him.

Clon has two votes on him now, and we don't know how the Spirits are voting, so in theory he could be at L-1 right now.

1 minute ago, Bertie Wooster said:

Clon has two votes on him now, and we don't know how the Spirits are voting, so in theory he could be at L-1 right now.

They get a vote between them all I think? Based on their consensus

@The Jabbawookie could you clear the dead votes up at all?

2 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

out of all the votes though clons makes 0 sense, pod isn't a scum read and he's unsure on LTD.. so why not vote me? the guy he's called scum in about 3-4 posts basically?

Town clon would've pushed me, LTD vote is saving his skin D1.

2 minutes ago, Bertie Wooster said:

19 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

It would have looked a little shady if two scum hammered Pod at the tail end though, if Pod is town. 

Less so to go after LTD?

2 minutes ago, Bertie Wooster said:

Clon seems townish to me, or maybe third party. I feel like he comes across as more confident when he's scum, and I haven't seen that in him this game. But I have to agree with the consensus that his contributions this game haven't been helpful so far.

I thought LTD and (to a lesser degree) Ebon were scummy, but I was wrong about LTD and almost certainly Ebon. If no better train than clon forms, I will vote for him.

If not Clon/You, who would you bet on now for a top 3 most suspicious

1 minute ago, Bertie Wooster said:

Clon has two votes on him now, and we don't know how the Spirits are voting, so in theory he could be at L-1 right now.

so if one of us votes for him then it would be a hammer?

Just now, Matt3412 said:

so if one of us votes for him then it would be a hammer?

in theory but wait for jabba as

1 minute ago, EbonHawk said:

They get a vote between them all I think? Based on their consensus

@The Jabbawookie could you clear the dead votes up at all?

so I think at max clons only L-2 in theory

The only person i trust right now is ebon sadly

Everyone else has had to fall in line or be obviously anti-town

##unvote

##vote @clontroper5

now he's L-2 for sure, clon what do you have to say?

1 minute ago, Matt3412 said:

The only person i trust right now is ebon sadly 

Now you know how I feel when Pod is town in games

I will be online for a while, I'll keep clon off L-1, but with evidence forming we need the pressure on him to come back in

On 12/31/2018 at 8:27 PM, The Jabbawookie said:

As signups continue, let's talk about death.

Upon dying, you will enter a shadowy Google Doc known as the Spirit World. Collectively, everyone in the Spirit World has one total "real" vote; its use is immediately determined once a majority is reached. Some spirits have roles too. Here they are:

Dominating Presence (possesses target player to control all non-lethal actions for 1 day or night, 1-shot)

Lingering Presence (overrides the spirit vote, 1-shot)

Mist Wraith (silences and roleblocks a spirit for 1 day or night, 1-shot)

Night Maker (can cause a second round of night actions, 1-shot)

Vengeful Specter (changes alignment upon death)

Tourist (resurrects as a vanilla player of their previous faction upon death of a predetermined player)

Departed Sister (can communicate with a predetermined town player)

Some or all of these roles will be used. With the exception of Departed Sister and Night Maker (town only), they can belong to any faction. Scum maintains communication with the living via scumchat, but faction changers do not gain it, merely a list of their scummy brethren.

In addition to roles you know and recognize, there are a couple new roles for the living as well. Here they are:

Spirit Walker (can communicate with the Departed Sister)

Shaman (can protect up to two players each night, cannot self protect, no consecutive protection)

Mist Maker (can prevent all non-lethal action for 1 night, 1-shot)

Bloodseer (upon killing a night action role, gains an immediate rolecop scan)

Some or all of these roles will be used. With the exception of Spirit Walker (town only), they can belong to any faction.

You are correct @EbonHawk my apologies. I thought it was one vote per Spirit.

Just now, Bertie Wooster said:

You are correct @EbonHawk my apologies. I thought it was one vote per Spirit.

Cool, with 2 dead we can bet at least 1-2 will be in play currently as well, maybe 1 if only town gets spirt roles? I also would bet with only town LTD dead they won't push a spirt vote

If LP is in the Spirit World, I wonder who he will vote for.

@EbonHawk unvote if hes town he wont be dead

If hes scum and we got a friend then it wont matter cuz the mod will come on and say the unvote dosent count there was a hammer when you voted

1 minute ago, Matt3412 said:

@EbonHawk unvote if hes town he wont be dead

If hes scum and we got a friend then it wont matter cuz the mod will come on and say the unvote dosent count there was a hammer when you voted

Does the spirt vote only hammer scum? Also with Clon at L-2 LP/LTD can only vote if they got the role from Jabba (they may have a different spirt role first), and it would only put him to L-1 with the spirt vote, so rn anyone who hammers is scum