1 hour ago, Bertie Wooster said:

If all the Vanillas were fireproof, how could the Arsonist possibly win against 3-4 Vanillas?

maybe there are not that many vanillas

1 hour ago, Bertie Wooster said:

I haven't said whether I'm Vanilla or power role, and I don't see a reason why I should claim. Yesterday you were against the Lie Detector because you were afraid of revealing power roles / Vanilla roles to scum. Now you want to reveal Vanilla and power roles? I don't get it.

I haven't asked you too, just what you had to say in regards to the above... I do not ask for your role.

On 1/20/2019 at 3:19 PM, Madaghmire said:

I’m most suspicious of Ebon, his whole interaction struck me as scum Ebon, now trying to walk it back to town Ebon.

Seemingly tho, I’m alone in that assesment as I read through this. Matt seems to still like Pod, and while I don’t hate it, I don’t love it either.

I have to re-evaluate Clons game and decide if I like Pod’s “information vs analysis” basis.

On 1/20/2019 at 3:22 PM, Madaghmire said:

Eh, Clons game doesn’t bother me so much.

I prefer LTD I think, because I believe Gnips was onto something regarding there likely being a scum on the early Pod train, and of the possibilities he strikes me as most likely.

##vote LTD

quick turnaround from mad here..

thinking possible bertie/mad team

1 hour ago, Bertie Wooster said:

I don't think that is the case, because LP was declared fireproof after his death, and LTD (Vanilla) was not.

If all the Vanillas were fireproof, how could the Arsonist possibly win against 3-4 Vanillas?

I haven't said whether I'm Vanilla or power role, and I don't see a reason why I should claim. Yesterday you were against the Lie Detector because you were afraid of revealing power roles / Vanilla roles to scum. Now you want to reveal Vanilla and power roles? I don't get it.

again I only presented a theory so your attempts of trying to say I'm rolefishing you and asking for a claim are pretty void, and rather defensive for a 'town'

Vote count:

@EbonHawk:

@GhostofNobodyInParticular:

@Caldias:

@TheCallum:

@Bertie Wooster: 1 (EbonHawk)

@PodRacer:

@Madaghmire:

@Matt3412:

@clontroper5: 2 (PodRacer) (TheCallum)

5 to lynch.

PING

1 hour ago, Bertie Wooster said:

I don't think that is the case, because LP was declared fireproof after his death, and LTD (Vanilla) was not.

If all the Vanillas were fireproof, how could the Arsonist possibly win against 3-4 Vanillas?

Also while I get this, it also doesn't make sense for me to be the only vanilla fireproof in the game? otherwise, LP could burn everyone but still lose to a draw due to being unable to kill me, so I'm betting I'm not the only one and as such LPs WinCon is directly reliant on scum killing me/the other fireproofs?

@Matt3412 you were just online, what's your thoughts?

10 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

@Matt3412 you were just online, what's your thoughts?

Browsing yes,

Too be honest I dont think a vanilla town would be fireproof

That doesn't seem vanilla to me

Also that dosen't mean your not fireproof I just think you might be misleading us cuz you

Have a power role

Are possibley a second arsonist

16 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

Also while I get this, it also doesn't make sense for me to be the only vanilla fireproof in the game?

Also I feel like this statement has the ability to draw out information that would be more helpful to scum

Example: vanilla town "goes hey I'm vanilla and fireproof" or even if he goes "hey I'm vanilla and I'm not fireproof"

All this really does is make the scum have a smaller pool to hit the medic/cop ect ect ect

17 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

Browsing yes,

Too be honest I dont think a vanilla town would be fireproof

That doesn't seem vanilla to me

Also that dosen't mean your not fireproof I just think you might be misleading us cuz you

Have a power role

Are possibley a second arsonist

No and No, I'm with you about it being odd hence me bringing it to everyone's attention in the first place. It states VT, but then as a flavour line mentions being able to control small fires making me fireproof

15 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

Also I feel like this statement has the ability to draw out information that would be more helpful to scum

Example: vanilla town "goes hey I'm vanilla and fireproof" or even if he goes "hey I'm vanilla and I'm not fireproof"

All this really does is make the scum have a smaller pool to hit the medic/cop ect ect ect

Not really, it's just exploring all options as you should do. It doesn't make sense for me to be the only one as you yourself point out

20 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

Browsing yes,

Too be honest I dont think a vanilla town would be fireproof

That doesn't seem vanilla to me

Also that dosen't mean your not fireproof I just think you might be misleading us cuz you

Have a power role

Are possibley a second arsonist

So why is it okay for you to point it out and ask, but not me?

I'm betting 2 town power roles and you'd have to not read to game to know who one of them is already, so trust me if I was scum we'd be 1 power role short already

19 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

Example: vanilla town "goes hey I'm vanilla and fireproof" or even if he goes "hey I'm vanilla and I'm not fireproof"

All this really does is make the scum have a smaller pool to hit the medic/cop ect ect ect

Also they wouldn't have to say anything, just the fact I've said it is enough. If they can corroborate they can do so silently meaning their own scum pools decrease.. quite the opposite

Only really a problem if they don't have it in their PMs as then it makes me look doubly odd for having it in mine

6 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

I'm betting 2 town power roles and you'd have to not read to game to know who one of them is already, so trust me if I was scum we'd be 1 power role short already

which also reinforces my current thinking that the scum team may be Vet light

Ok sorry I was indisposed for most of today, so lost of Ebon posts. I have read everything but don't have enough time to do a real in-depth analysis.

@PodRacer @TheCallum why are you voting me?

7 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

To expand on my arsonist comment, in my flavor (I'm paraphrasing), I learned how to control small flames (nightsister spirt I guess), and because of that, I'm flameproof.

After dying last game to an arsonist I really don't want that repeated, so yeah we could be dealing with that on top of scum.

Now a new day let me expand on Nope.

If you want to go off previous scum games mate than let's hang mister COP. You know the guy who gave an 'information' game to town all nice and calm just like D1 this game, what were you scum!

I was aggressive on the pod vote for reasons explained, I won't explain again. I've also learned from that mistake as scum, and wouldn't repeat it in the next game if I was scum! Also, you want info on my last scum game ask LP/Callum/Pod, where I just won as scum with Pod as my scummate in the Whatsapp group by playing calmy and playing the 'middle ground guy' ask Callum if he thought I was scum in the whatsapp game! Even LP noted the lessons learned from my last game. You may see I'm just town who was annoyed with Pod voting me again, it was more telling all those who used that to then shade me but not actually vote me?

D1 if you (mad/clon/bertie etc) all really thought I had a chance of being scum then why not vote me? D1 is a crapshoot and I'd argue I actually was the best kill yesterday. I can see how it looked a tad scummy.

Ask yourself why I wasn't killed, and why I'm alive today, most likely so the scum team can use the pressure and shade on me to get me hung today, thereby giving them another 'free' kill. That's what I would do as scum, and no one, I mean no one here can say they would do otherwise.... because I've seen you all do it multiple times.

You keep the most scummy looking town alive, in the hopes they get hung.

So again I ask, who shaded me yesterday? Who said I was scum or chance off? Who didn't vote me out of that and why? Who set themselves up to come after me again today?

And who didn't vote yesterday? (Had I not hammered/Callum been online, we would be facing a no lynch yesterday, in scums favor), and who of Gnips/Bertie/Mad/Clon/Matt look most likely scum on LTDs wagon?

FYI the only reason I brought up your other games is because you explicitly said to look at your other games. This nonsense about my cop stuff isn't really relevant to the conversation (although I will say I was quite proud of myself haha)

Also I didn't vote because I personally don't like changing my votes, so I normally vote very late in the day (especially early on in games) and then leave my vote their.

Correction that first line should say *I didn't vote for @EbonHawk...

20 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:

Ok sorry I was indisposed for most of today, so lost of Ebon posts. I have read everything but don't have enough time to do a real in-depth analysis.

@PodRacer @TheCallum why are you voting me?

putting my vote on you yesterday triggered a flurry of votes for LTD, Im thinking you were the counterwagon people were avoiding voting in that scenario

31 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

putting my vote on you yesterday triggered a flurry of votes for LTD, Im thinking you were the counterwagon people were avoiding voting in that scenario

So let me get this straight, your voting me, so that other poeple will vote somewhere else?

Seems legit

I'm voting you to see who does what.

Who are you voting?

I was going to vote Ebon,

Still considering if there is another option. Maybe a lurker somewhere.

I’ve just caught up.

There’s a bit to unpack, but the first thought I had, and I’m surprised no one mentioned this;

You can be flameproof, or you can be vanilla. You can’t be both. Vanilla literally means you don’t have a modifier.

Unless Jabba borked Ebon’s PM and named him as vanilla, Ebon is lying. Lynch all liars.

##vote Ebonhawk

If I’m wrong Ebon, and Jabba borked your PM, then sorry, but this is automatic.

If I’m right, then you have my sincere respect for the masterful job you did of preemptively attacking a push against you.

My current theory is that arsonist are flameproof because there’s more than one. I think maybe Ebon is only giving us half his role.

2 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

I’ve just caught up.

There’s a bit to unpack, but the first thought I had, and I’m surprised no one mentioned this;

You can be flameproof, or you can be vanilla. You can’t be both. Vanilla literally means you don’t have a modifier.

Unless Jabba borked Ebon’s PM and named him as vanilla, Ebon is lying. Lynch all liars.

##vote Ebonhawk

If I’m wrong Ebon, and Jabba borked your PM, then sorry, but this is automatic.

If I’m right, then you have my sincere respect for the masterful job you did of preemptively attacking a push against you.

My current theory is that arsonist are flameproof because there’s more than one. I think maybe Ebon is only giving us half his role.

I was thinking the same thing but assumed it was what was received via PM. Perhaps though it is a scum slip.

I do agree with the observation that there must be multiple arsonists since LP was flamproof, I didn't notice it at first but did on a reread. Could be an important but of info later.

@clontroper5 you were my favourite target yesterday, so I thought I’d open up day 2 doing the same, and as Pod says, without votes, nothing happens.

Saying that, Ebon is doing a sterling job of digging himself a grave.

Lots of lying though so far for D2, I may change my mind before the end of the day- though I will try not to jump around- as I said yesterday, it’s a bit scummy.