Midnight and dice mods

By freakyg3, in X-Wing Rules Questions

In first edition the answer was always no but I don’t know about 2nd ed. If midnight has a ship locked

Vader - Can he add a die with target lock

Fenn - does he throw four or five dice at R1

basicly is adding a die a modification?

Can an anyone point out other stuff I should know using Midnight?

Apparently, adding dice to be rolled isn't a Modification, while adding results is.

For example, Concordia Faceoff would not work, nor would Norra Wexley adding her Evade.

Per the Rules Reference Guide , under Dice Modifications, the following effects are modifications:

  1. Adding a die result.
  2. Changing a die result.
  3. Rerolling a die.
  4. Spending a die result for an effect.

The following effects are NOT modifications:

  1. Cancelling a die result.
  2. Rolling additional or fewer dice.

As to your question, it depends on what you mean by "adding a die". There are two interpretations of that phrase... rolling an additional die, or adding a die result. Let's look at Fenn Rau, as an example:

  1. For the first part of his ability, he would add an additional die at Range 1. Midnight can't prevent the addition of dice before they are rolled, so at Range 1, he would get both his Range bonus and his Pilot Ability bonus.
    1. It is worth noting that while he would ROLL 5 attack dice, he couldn't modify them in any way - not with a focus token, not by spending a lock, not with Fearless, or even the Proton Torpedo hit-to-a-crit ability.
  2. Looking at Concordia Faceoff, though, he would not be allowed to change a result to an evade, because that's considered to be a modification.

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22 hours ago, freakyg3 said:

In first edition the answer was always no but I don’t know about 2nd ed. If midnight has a ship locked

Vader - Can he add a die with target lock

Fenn - does he throw four or five dice at R1

basicly is adding a die a modification?

Can an anyone point out other stuff I should know using Midnight?

In fact no, in first edition, the answer was far from always no... Palp could modify the dice roll.

In 2nd edition, it will in fact always be no, way more then in 1st.

As for your two situations, they are not modification, they were also not modification in 1st, so they are never related to this kind of abilities.

Edited by muribundi
9 hours ago, muribundi said:

In fact no, in first edition, the answer was far from always no... Palp could modify the dice roll.

In 2nd edition, it will in fact always be no, way more then in 1st.

To be precise, that's because of wording differences between Omega Leader and Midnight, not because of rules changes. (OL only stopped mods generated by the other ship. Midnight stops all mods, period.)