What are the most underrated pilots for each faction in 2.0?

By Greedo_Sharpshooter, in X-Wing

Most underrated pilots?

my picks...

Scum: 4-LOM (honorable mention: Unkar Plutt)

Rebels: AP-5 (honorable mention: Chewbacca)

Imperials: Omicron Group Pilot (honorable mention: Echo)

First Order: Lt. Tavson (???)

Resistance: ??? (???)

Edited by Da_Brown_Bomber

4LOM is underrated?!

5 minutes ago, Vargas79 said:

4LOM is underrated?!

4-LOM is one of scums top 3-4 pilots imo but some ppl are still sleeping on the tricks he is capable of with advanced sensors. when u see him being played well or put in some time flying him you get how good he is. had one guy on these forums suggest taking advanced sensors off him!!! my point being he is better than some ppl think ;) and yes adv sensors is an auto-include on him - if u think otherwise then you don't know how to fly him.

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Oh advanced senors is stapled to him for sure. No shortage of love for 4LOM in Toronto, he’s regularly played here.

2 minutes ago, Vargas79 said:

Oh advanced senors is stapled to him for sure. No shortage of love for 4LOM in Toronto, he’s regularly played here.

imo optimal loadout on him is... title/adv.sensors/elusive

hard to find points for elusive but if u can it has excellent synergy with his red dial/stress passing tricks ;)

First Order:

Upsilon in general.

Resistance:

Most T70s besides Poe.

Probably Tubbs and Kare Kun.

Rebels: Han/Lando falcon.

Though expensive, the old yt actually still does a lot of work when built well. Both Han and Lando enjoy R2D2 crew as Han can reroll hit results and Lando has the action econ to flip any crits turned up by R2. This, combined with their ability to big boost out of arcs, makes them extremely surviveable. The biggest thing holding them back is not their high cost, but the lack of an effective wingman. Luke is the only viable ship rebels have to fly with the lovable rogues at the moment, but fitting both with sufficient upgrades is difficult.

59 minutes ago, Da_Brown_Bomber said:

4-LOM is one of scums top 3-4 pilots imo but some ppl are still sleeping on the tricks he is capable of with advanced sensors. when u see him being played well or put in some time flying him you get how good he is. had one guy on these forums suggest taking advanced sensors off him!!! my point being he is better than some ppl think ;) and yes adv sensors is an auto-include on him - if u think otherwise then you don't know how to fly him.

4-LOM is a great pilot for a not so great ship.

I don't like spending the points on Advanced sensors or the title as I can spend them elsewhere in my list and the ship still flys just fine for me. 6-1 in a list with Boba and Palob that does not use Marauder or Han on Boba either!

And no Lando on Palob!!!

So not auto-include for me, on a number of popular combos. 😘

Guess I must not know how to fly them.

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25 minutes ago, Scum4Life said:

4-LOM is a great pilot for a not so great ship.

I don't like spending the points on Advanced sensors or the title as I can spend them elsewhere in my list and the ship still flys just fine for me. 6-1 in a list with Boba and Palob that does not use Marauder or Han on Boba either!

And no Lando on Palob!!!

So not auto-include for me, on a number of popular combos. 😘

Guess I must not know how to fly them.

Could be lots of factors involved.

Quality of opposition and opp squad relevant here.

No Marauder or han gunner on Boba seems sub optimal in current environment. So ur 6-1 with Boba/Palob+title/4-LOM? just those 3 ships or r u running a 4th ship such as quadjumper? escape craft? 0-0-0 in ur list? 8pts is a lot for a single upgrade but ur getting full use of that red filled dial.

not taking advanced sensors on 4-LOM takes away quite a bit of his evasiveness and denies turns he can get double calculate. With Mist Hunter u also get to barrel roll before you move/k-turn. So for example u could adv.sensors take calculate action then 2 K-Turn and grab a second calculate or take ur action before you reveal red stop. Has more tricks as well :) Be interested to hear how ur flying him that makes adv. sensors expendable ;)

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9 minutes ago, Da_Brown_Bomber said:

Could be lots of factors involved.

Quality of opposition and opp squad relevant here.

No Marauder or han gunner on Boba seems sub optimal in current environment. So ur 6-1 with Boba/Palob+title/4-LOM? just those 3 ships or r u running a 4th ship such as quadjumper? escape craft? 0-0-0 in ur list? 8pts is a lot for a single upgrade but ur getting full use of that red filled dial.

not taking advanced sensors on 4-LOM takes away quite a bit of his evasiveness and denies turns he can get double calculate. Be interested to hear how ur flying him that makes adv. sensors expendable ;)

Boba Fett — Firespray-class Patrol Craft 80
Fearless 3
IG-88D 4
Ship Total: 87
4-LOM — G-1A Starfighter 49
Elusive 3
0-0-0 3
Ship Total: 55
Palob Godalhi — HWK-290 Light Freighter 38
Elusive 3
L3-37 4
Moldy Crow. 12
Ship Total: 57

My local meta (4 other people, 3 of which are imperial) has lots of Juke heavy lists, so I see Whisper, Rexlar, Seyn Marana and Soontir am awful lot, as well as other fun pilots like Ryad, Echo and named tie pilots I cam remember.

The other guy is rebel and uses Luke, wedge and a coordinating U-wing has beat me the only time we played with this list.

But I find all the extra tokens I can gain (often two focus/calc on each) and being able to nick evades using Palob, block and stress with 4-LOM, its just so good against them.

I'm waiting for them to share bombers so someone can use a Barrage swarm against me, or really anything not using Juke.

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Scum:

Pretty much every Scyk named. There’s a lot of potential there, the ship’s just a tad overcosted.

Dalan Oberos in his Starviper, for sure.

Rebel:

Jek Porkins and Kulbee Speedo. Hands down. People stop laughing at Jek when he Tallon Rolls through a debris cloud, eats the damage in his CostCo-sized T-65, and then Target Locks anyways. Jek don’t give a ****.

And flappy bird Kulbee is probably the most fun I’ve had flying an X-Wing.

11 minutes ago, Scum4Life said:
Boba Fett — Firespray-class Patrol Craft 80
Fearless 3
IG-88D 4
Ship Total: 87
4-LOM — G-1A Starfighter 49
Elusive 3
0-0-0 3
Ship Total: 55
Palob Godalhi — HWK-290 Light Freighter 38
Elusive 3
L3-37 4
Moldy Crow. 12
Ship Total: 57

My local meta (4 other people, 3 of which are imperial) has lots of Juke heavy lists, so I see Whisper, Rexlar, Seyn Marana and Soontir am awful lot, as well as other fun pilots like Ryad, Echo and named tie pilots I cam remember.

The other guy is rebel and uses Luke, wedge and a coordinating U-wing has beat me the only time we played with this list.

But I find all the extra tokens I can gain (often two focus/calc on each) and being able to nick evades using Palob, block and stress with 4-LOM, its just so good against them.

I'm waiting for them to share bombers so someone can use a Barrage swarm against me, or really anything not using Juke.

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thats a really solid list. double elusive will def add to the survivability of Paloba and 4-LOM.

23 minutes ago, It’s One Of Ours said:

Jek Porkins and Kulbee Speedo. Hands down. People stop laughing at Jek when he Tallon Rolls through a debris cloud, eats the damage in his CostCo-sized T-65, and then Target Locks anyways. Jek don’t give a ****.

My daughter mopped the floor with Iden (me) and Quinn Jast (her uncle) flying Jek in a 3 way, 51pt limit, furball. His statement in ANH is a meme, but only because it is misunderstood... Jek is an enduro driver from ****.

I say Torkil mux, overshadowed by the godlike Palob (a shame that moldy crow is limited *evil grin*)

Off the top of my head:

Rebels: Biggs, Yeah he's still good.

Imperials: Duchess, one of the cheapest aces in the game.

Scum: Drea, I feel like she's not underrated, but swarms in general are. Seriously, a Drea swarm is formidable.

FO: Blackout, just my hunch.

Resistance: Kare Kun, I just loved Blue Ace in 1.0.

Scum: Torkil Mux probably deserves more press than he is getting.

11 hours ago, It’s One Of Ours said:

Jek Porkins and Kulbee Speedo. Hands down.

You're meeting, right? They are two of the worst t-65 abilities.

12 minutes ago, Ablazoned said:

You're meeting, right? They are two of the worst t-65 abilities.

Porkins with Elusive and Chopper (sadly not available in Hyperspace) is awesomely good. If he were Init 5, he'd be top tier in Rebels. So people fly Thane instead.

But without an easy way to regenerate his shields, he's weak. R5 isn't good for actually using his ability, because he gets killed too easily once he's lost his shields, and R2 costs his shots and has limited charges.

15 hours ago, Da_Brown_Bomber said:

Imperials: (honorable mention: Echo)

I'm all in on this. Not sure if actually underrated but absolutely my no.1 ship over the last couple months.

Oh you move last? Can you move here?

Oh I guess you can't :D

1 hour ago, Ablazoned said:

You're meeting, right? They are two of the worst t-65 abilities.

Focus and Boost every turn and keep your 3 attack dice isn't a terrible ability. Add in an R4 astromech and you have Fangfighter manoeverability in the Rebel Faction

15 hours ago, Bucknife said:

First Order:

Upsilon in general.

I'd say that given the upsilon is the only big ship in the game restricted both to a 40º fire arc plus no means to turn around quickly, its underratiness is somewhat justified.

That said, I'm eager to be proven wrong by hordes of upsilons taking over tournaments...

11 hours ago, Ablazoned said:

You're meeting, right? They are two of the worst t-65 abilities.

How does one actually go about applying a metric for best or worst pilot abilities on a ship unless it’s something like Fel’s Wrath?

Also, case in point on Jek and Kulbee being underrated pilots.

Edited by It’s One Of Ours

Does anyone think Ketsu Onyo is underrated? Initiative 5 and seems like a decent ship with shadowcaster title for 83pts.

probably gets overlooked because playing two jakku Gunrunners is only 56pts, leaving u another 27pts so hes almost the cost of 3 gunrunners (1pt off).

Edited by Da_Brown_Bomber

Echo > Whisper

(Echo is underated & extremely fun! [hyperspace format makes Echo sad 😕])