What does it look like is going to be the best option to murder these things? Pickles double broadsiding? Or mc30s? Yavaris is great but it's on such a fragile chassis I'd be worried about keeping it alive for long enough to do significant damage.

The SSD is so long that a Home One could Ackbar slash it by driving directly into one side of the SSD. So two Ackbar MC80As could go to town pretty hard for a few turns.

https://archiveofossus.wordpress.com/2017/04/22/defence-token-mitigation/

Following these teachings imo

Home one might actually be super useful, especially combined with quad turbolaser cannons. Start off with home one and then if they brace and redirect (they should with two shots) they will have to start burning really quickly. A intensify firepower pelta might also really help.

ACMs are going to be my go to.

Clearly the best thing to do is bring 14 Crambo 90s and ram the thing to death.

4 minutes ago, clontroper5 said:

Clearly the best thing to do is bring 14 Crambo 90s and ram the thing to death.

Rieekan Scout Hammerhead swarm.

@Crabbok did an excellent video on some of the Rebel options to counter an SSD. He includes a lot of titles, such as Paragon, and upgrades that could see more play because of this.

Bring a SSD.

23 minutes ago, KaLeu said:

Bring a SSD.

Its not exactly a killing machine though....

5 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Its not exactly a killing machine though....

It will last as long as the other. Problem seems to be deploying: Second wins?

6 minutes ago, KaLeu said:

It will last as long as the other. Problem seems to be deploying: Second wins?

Honestly whoever has more activitions and first player is probably going to be better at the murdering.

2 hours ago, ExplosiveTooka said:

What does it look like is going to be the best option to murder these things? Pickles double broadsiding? Or mc30s? Yavaris is great but it's on such a fragile chassis I'd be worried about keeping it alive for long enough to do significant damage.

Basic y wings. 167 points of basic y wings. Murder murder murder

3 minutes ago, geek19 said:

Basic y wings. 167 points of basic y wings. Murder murder murder

I dig the solution, but there are two problems. One being that in a 400 pt game you're limited to 133 pts of y wings and the other is that fighter pack one doesn't exist anymore

20 minutes ago, thepopemobile100 said:

I dig the solution, but there are two problems. One being that in a 400 pt game you're limited to 133 pts of y wings and the other is that fighter pack one doesn't exist anymore

If opponent is bringing the epic ssd, you're already at 500 or more.

3 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

If opponent is bringing the epic ssd, you're already at 500 or more.

... and the fleet points cost for 400 pt games is 134 not 133.

6 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

If opponent is bringing the epic ssd, you're already at 500 or more.

I didn't catch that it would be the epic ssd, my b

2 hours ago, PT106 said:

Rieekan Scout Hammerhead swarm.

2 hours ago, clontroper5 said:

Clearly the best thing to do is bring 14 Crambo 90s and ram the thing to death.

I was actually thinking this might be a really effective tactic. even at 400 points you can fit 8 cr90's with engine techs. that's 16 points of damage you can do in 1 round. say it's a 600 point game, that's 12, so 24 points in 1 round. I actually think reinforced bulkheads might be a must have on SSD's just to not get kneecapped by these joke fleets.

Just now, dominosfleet said:

I was actually thinking this might be a really effective tactic. even at 400 points you can fit 8 cr90's with engine techs. that's 16 points of damage you can do in 1 round. say it's a 600 point game, that's 12, so 24 points in 1 round. I actually think reinforced bulkheads might be a must have on SSD's just to not get kneecapped by these joke fleets.

If you are genuinely interested. I built this ages ago whilst Clon was on his travels in homage to a version he flew (its effective):

CRambo90's
Author: Ginkapo

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 387/400

Commander: General Rieekan

Assault Objective: Blockade Run
Defense Objective: Fleet Ambush
Navigation Objective: Solar Corona

[ flagship ] CR90 Corvette B (39 points)
- General Rieekan ( 30 points)
- Engine Techs ( 8 points)
- Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points)
= 82 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette B (39 points)
- Engine Techs ( 8 points)
- Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points)
= 52 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette B (39 points)
- Engine Techs ( 8 points)
- Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points)
= 52 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette B (39 points)
- Engine Techs ( 8 points)
- Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points)
= 52 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette B (39 points)
- Engine Techs ( 8 points)
- Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points)
= 52 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette B (39 points)
- Engine Techs ( 8 points)
- Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points)
= 52 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Quantum Storm ( 1 points)
= 19 total ship cost

1 Green Squadron ( 12 points)
1 Lietenant Blount ( 14 points)
= 26 total squadron cost

4 hours ago, Ling27 said:

ACMs are going to be my go to.

I imagine most SSD will also have DCO.

I would imagine a Sato Mon Karren with overload pulse, XX-9, XI7, and fire control team would work well gimping the SSD while bombers do their thing

The issue with using tons of squads is the flak, which can actually wear them down here. It seems unlikely the SSD can bring Hardened Bulkheads (because if they can, they can also bring Pryce ,) but 1-shotting three CRambos a turn is no laughing matter. I'd bring 4 Screed/Motti Kuats with APTs, BTs and Boarding Vader. Kill DCO, burn their braces and deal eight crits a turn plus ISD damage.

I suppose you could just physically grab your opponent's SSD and run away. You'd technically lose the match but you'd gain 200 bucks!

4 hours ago, Crabbok said:

I suppose you could just physically grab your opponent's SSD and run away. You'd technically lose the match but you'd gain 200 bucks!

Only if you play it like it's air guitar as your run away.

The crambo still requires the unreleased rules for Huge ships, in particular how other ships interact with huge for ramming and being rammed(lel that thread got locked 😂 ), and whether HB can be equipped on Huge ships. That would affect how effective a Rieekan crambo does against the ssd list.

Other possible archetypes predictions(for a 400point match):

-Raddus bomb(flank and drop on the weak rear)

-Madine Libs(flank)

-Ackbar Conga(have to deploy well but likely able to outdeploy since ssd list only have 1-2 ships)

-mass bomber fleets(yav will die coz it has to close in, so likely carriers that can use boosted comms[bwings+independence? 😁 ])

-2SD (usually upgraded to the teeth, should be able to pound a ssd quite fairly if not better)

Edit: sorry, forgot the OP was talking about epic version. But could give these a try haha

Waiting for Nadiri Starhawks!