Linked action clarification

By Stethoscope Nunchucks, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Hi, we're new to xwing, and trying to determine how to implement a linked action.

For example, a white focus --> red barrel roll in the action list.

My interpretation is that if I choose a focus for my action, I my also elect to also do a barrel roll at the cost of strain. I don't HAVE to also do the barrel roll, nor do I have to actually spend my focus to do the barrel roll.

Thanks in advance!

That is correct!

See p12 of the Rules Reference (1.0.2) doc for confirmation :)

Hijacking for my related question :)

If I attempt and fail the first action (br, for example), can I do the second? If no, what if I am using composure?

1 hour ago, sthej said:

Hijacking for my related question :)

If I attempt and fail the first action (br, for example), can I do the second?

No. (Rules Reference p. 11, "Fail")

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If no, what if I am using composure?

Composure says right on it that it works if you fail an action while possessing no green tokens.

1 hour ago, Quarrel said:
3 hours ago, sthej said:

Hijacking   for my related question :)

If I attempt and fail the first action (br, for  example   ), can I do the second  ?  

No. (Rules Reference p. 11, "Fail")

3 hours ago, sthej said:

If   no, what if   I am using  composure    ?

Composure says right on it that it works if you fail an action while possessing no green tokens.

As Quarrel said, if you use Composure then you have still failed the BR so you still cannot link off of it. However, you have performed a focus action which can be linked, but only if you have focus linked to something on your action bar. I can't think of an example ship that has both actions linked to and from repositions so it might be a moot point.

3 hours ago, sthej said:

Hijacking for my related question :)

If I attempt and fail the first action (br, for example), can I do the second? If no, what if I am using composure?

There is a catch to this. If you fail the first or linked action and they were red, you STILL get the stress token. You can no longer use Composure because you are cannot do the free focus ACTION.

8 hours ago, sthej said:

Hijacking for my related question :)

If I attempt and fail the first action (br, for example), can I do the second? If no, what if I am using composure?

Not really with Composure. There are similar-ish situations, but they're not the same.

So a TIE Advanced x1 attempts to barrel roll, fails, then uses Composure to take a focus action. You can't attempt a barrel roll off this, because you've already performed a Barrel Roll action. It didn't move you, but you still performed the action and it resolved in a default way per Failure rules.

If it were realistic to fail a Lock action (it will be almost impossible not to have an asteroid or friendly ship in range 0-3), a TIE Advanced could fail a Lock, Composure a Focus, then link a Barrel Roll. But that will never happen in any realistic game.

A more reasonable example: X-Wings. Each of the T-70 and T-65 X-Wings have an option with S-Foils Closed to Focus into a linked Boost or Barrel Roll, depending on the ship. As such, if a T-70 failed a boost, or a T-65 failed a barrel roll, they could focus and use the linked action on their S-Foils card to perform the movement action they didn't fail.

Best example for composure is squints. Fail roll take compose focus autothrust boost.

4 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

Best example for composure is squints. Fail roll take compose focus autothrust boost.

Or RZ-2 A-Wings... fail barrel roll, take focus for Composure, link a boost or turret rotation. ;)

7 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

Best example for composure is squints. Fail roll take compose focus autothrust boost.

2 hours ago, DexterOnone said:

Or RZ-2 A-Wings... fail barrel roll, take focus for Composure, link a boost or turret rotation. ;)

I started with A-Wings and Interceptors in the example, but switched to X-Wings, since Autothrusters isn't a linked action, technically. It's a ship ability. :D

I cannot seem to find anywhere in the RRG that states you can get your stress from the linked red action without actually performing it. I'm trying to find out if I can link white focus into red barrel roll without doing the roll but still getting the stress.

2 minutes ago, Slenkhar said:

I cannot seem to find anywhere in the RRG that states you can get your stress from the linked red action without actually performing it. I'm trying to find out if I can link white focus into red barrel roll without doing the roll but still getting the stress.

Yes. If you fail a red action, you still get the stress. It's on page 3, under Actions.

Edited by Maui.
Just now, Maui. said:

Yes. If you fail a red action you still get the stress.

What I mean is: can I fail on purpose even though there was no obstacles/ship or anything preventing me from executing the barrel roll.

Just now, Slenkhar said:

What I mean is: can I fail on purpose even though there was no obstacles/ship or anything preventing me from executing the barrel roll.

No. Page 6, under barrel roll. You must place the template, and once you do, if any of the three possible final positions fits, you cannot choose to fail the roll.

Edited by Maui.
2 minutes ago, Maui. said:

No. Page 6, under barrel roll. You must place the template, and once you do, if any of the three possible final positions fits, you cannot choose to fail the roll.

Cheers. I was trying to see if I could stay in position with a B-Wing and still get stressed to get the benefits from named pilots if there was nothing about to fail on purpose

Just now, Slenkhar said:

Cheers. I was trying to see if I could stay in position with a B-Wing and still get stressed to get the benefits from named pilots if there was nothing about to fail on purpose

I've been flying some B-wings lately. If you fly in formation, it's not hard to make sure you have a buddy nearby so you can fail that roll if you need to.

9 minutes ago, Maui. said:

I've been flying some B-wings lately. If you fly in formation, it's not hard to make sure you have a buddy nearby so you can fail that roll if you need to.

Good point. With the imminent entry into HyperSpace I started looking at them, not quite sure what to make yet. Any pointers?