What's next for the rebel faction

By Wrecker01, in X-Wing

31 minutes ago, CaptainIxidor said:

What's next? Re-releases mainly. Hopefully they'll sneak some new content in there like they are not doing with the TIE Striker and Scum Z95.

This is what I expect. I think they didn't want to do that with Wave III because for just two ships they didn't want the hassle of releasing a wave conversion kit (or whatever it is they'll be doing for 1e converters in the future) so they just rereleased stuff that was already out. They didn't need that much help anyway, though it's disappointing to see no new scum pilots for the Z-95. Two is a new all-time low for 2e.

Regardless, I expect a rerelease wave right on the heels of wave III with the Resistance Bomber and Falcon, First Order Shuttle and Silencer, Rebel Falcon, A, and B, TIE Interceptor and Bomber, and some stuff for Scum. Maybe that's a lot but I bet they can do it.

After they announced squadron boxes for separatists/republic, I'm convinced we'll see squadron boxes for imperials and rebels. For rebels, I expect an A-Wing squad box will give us back Tycho, while imps should see royal guard Interceptors come back with Carnor Jax. I'm not totally sure what ships they'll pair with. Maybe E-Wings and Aggressors, respectively.

Rebels, what Rebels?

Oh you mean Resistance.:P

Maybe the bomber or the Salvaged falcon. Either way it is going to be a large base ship.;)

Edited by Marinealver

I'm not convinced that A/B rereleases are next, because I think (perhaps over-optimistically) that those ships are getting new content, and I think that the next few rereleases will be ships that require no new content, especially with the glut that will be dropping for prequels (and hopefully some new sequel stuff too).

I also think that the Falcon is coming next, and that will make three Falcons dropping all within about a year of each other (Resistance Falcon next November maybe?) and they may not want to oversaturate A-wings as well, which is another reason I think A/B might be closer to a year away than six months out. Which is a little bit of a bummer, but not nearly as big of a bummer as an A/B rerelease in May with no new pilots would be.

I'd think cartoon ships, but they won't drop the Falcon and the Ghost on top of each other (I don't think), so maybe outside of the Falcon we'll be seeing the E-wing and Auzituck come next.

1 hour ago, CaptainIxidor said:

What's next? Re-releases mainly. Hopefully they'll sneak some new content in there like they are not doing with the TIE Striker and Scum Z95.

Iirc the plan is re-releases over time intermixed with new content. Right now the release theme seems to have focused on Rogue One, A New Hope, and TLJ for Waves 1 and 2 (Scum getting things from Empire Strikes Back, Solo and the Rebels cartoon with a side focus on getting ships they'd had to purchase as part of Most Wanted or Most Wanted + the respective ship into their own singles). Wave 3 finishes up Rogue 1 for the Imps, finally lets Scum get a Z-95 (which apparently pops up in the novelization of the Solo movie 🤨 according to the wiki) without buying the Most Wanted pack and pulls from Revenge of the Sith (ARC-170 and the more advanced Vulture droids), Attack of the Clones (Aethersprite and Bug-22), Clone Wars cartoon (Aethersprite, Bug-22, Vulture Droids, V-19 Torrent and possibly the ARC-170) and The Phantom Menace (Sith Infiltrator and the low Init Vulture droids) for the Republic and CIS. I've got a fair itch that the TIE/sa, TIE/rb, Rebel YT-1300, Lambda, A-Wing and B-Wing are coming up pretty soon (Waves 4 and/or 5) with the Rebel YT-1300 (finishes getting the ANH ships on the table in 2.0 packs) and Lambda very likely for Wave 4. No frigging clue about Scum other than to finish fixing the old 1.0 multiple purchases required and multipack only crap the HWK-290 and Y-Wing are next, so they're strong contenders.

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3 hours ago, GeneralVryth said:

In the near future, a Falcon re-release with no new content seems very likely. A and B wing re-releases with new pilots at a minimum, and maybe 1 or 2 new upgrades also seems very likely. Whether all of the that comes in Wave 4, or is split between Wave 4 and Wave 5 (With maybe 1 other ship tossed in) is anybody's guess.

agree. rebels badly need B and A wings... BBXX, ABXX, AAAXX, AAABB, BBBB, ABBX, AAAAA will open things up nicely.

3 hours ago, Wrecker01 said:

I beleave they are planning to rerelease every ship of the first edition for new players.

that is what their plan is, but plans change, and to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if it did. logistically reprinting 3/5 factions and printing new ships for FO/Resistance, and then the 2 new factions...that is a lot of resources. maybe other products manufacturing will scale down to allow for it... we will see.

6 hours ago, TheHumanHydra said:

I hope this is what they do (kind of sad the Z-95 re-release didn't have pilots for both factions). Wouldn't this also benefit FFG by incentivizing players to try the second faction?

This. ^

13 hours ago, GeneralVryth said:

Does anyone really expect two very iconic ships like the Rebel A-wing and the TIE Interceptor, to only have 2 uniques throughout their life?

Well, that’s what they said they’ll do.

It is to hope that they have something REALLY special with these two in mind, especially since looked at from the power level the A-Wing might as well be inexistant. The Interceptor is more playable, with some successes to Fel and the generic Interceptors. But still... only 2 Named Pilots for these ships is just pure nonsense.

And you are right. They cut a lot of pilots from both ships, which makes no sense from a selling standpoint either. Nobody would buy this set, no matter how beautiful the paintjob is.

For the interceptor, i hope for a Royal guard release, with a few changes to the model sculpt. For the A-Wing, i have no idea at all. But they must know that there needs something to be done. Regarding how good Resistance A-Wings are and how utterly useless Rebel ones are...

36 minutes ago, ForceM said:

Well, that’s what they said they’ll do.

It is to hope that they have something REALLY special with these two in mind, especially since looked at from the power level the A-Wing might as well be inexistant. The Interceptor is more playable, with some successes to Fel and the generic Interceptors. But still... only 2 Named Pilots for these ships is just pure nonsense.

And you are right. They cut a lot of pilots from both ships, which makes no sense from a selling standpoint either. Nobody would buy this set, no matter how beautiful the paintjob is.

For the interceptor, i hope for a Royal guard release, with a few changes to the model sculpt. For the A-Wing, i have no idea at all. But they must know that there needs something to be done. Regarding how good Resistance A-Wings are and how utterly useless Rebel ones are...

I don't want 1.0 2.0 with me buying sets just for fix cards. Just make stuff cheaper with changable point costs.

4 minutes ago, Zura said:

I don't want 1.0 2.0 with me buying sets just for fix cards. Just make stuff cheaper with changable point costs.

That, or "errata in" fix ship abilities thru the squad builder app. When the app is the official way to build your squad for tournament play, there is no excuse now not to add stuff to the card texts directly, instead of patching ships with fix upgrades.

Edited by Azrapse

Well.

Uh.

Geez, I guess the T-Wing, but why? Rebel Lambda? But then again, friggin' why?

Yeah uh they got everything from canon sources at this point. Welp.

1 hour ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Geez, I guess the T-Wing, but why? Rebel Lambda? But then again, friggin' why?

Yeah uh they got everything from canon sources at this point. Welp.

Yeah, I was about to say the T-wing, but even in the lore it was just an A-wing with torpedoes that sucked so badly that the rebels sold their stock to third parties.
I wonder how cool that would look as flavor text on the generics. :D

15 hours ago, hargleblarg said:

After they announced squadron boxes for separatists/republic, I'm convinced we'll see squadron boxes for imperials and rebels. For rebels, I expect an A-Wing squad box will give us back Tycho, while imps should see royal guard Interceptors come back with Carnor Jax. I'm not totally sure what ships they'll pair with. Maybe E-Wings and Aggressors, respectively.

I expect some Disney canon boxes instead:

Prototype B(lade)-Wing + 2 [Phoenix Squadron] A-Wings with Hera, Sabine and such.

[Elite] TIE Defender + 2 [Inferno Squad?] TIE Fighters OR 2 [Star Wars Rebels] TIE Interceptors.

New molds and Configurations for the B(lade)-Wing and [Elite] TIE Defender would be a must.

There's always the H-wing, winner of the "Fugliest Starfighter in the Galaxy" competition for about ten years running.

(Even the better quality images from Stay On Target look like a hunchbacked Y-wing indecently assaulting an A-wing from behind)

I guess now "medium" ships are a thing you might be able to make it into something interesting?

3 hours ago, Zura said:

I don't want 1.0 2.0 with me buying sets just for fix cards. Just make stuff cheaper with changable point costs.

In the A-Wing’s case, that alone won’t change a thing.

It doesn’t need Fix cards either.

It needs more pilots at high Initiative with good abilites, as well as a reduction in the existing ones point cost (which is, again not going to change a lot). Maybe the double talent slots should also be added, although they are not what makes Resistance A-Wings good. I rarely even know what to put in the second talent slot besides Heroic.

What does make them good is the combination of I5, decent costing and good ability. Something that is not achievable by the current Rebel A-Wings no matter what they do.

Plus they have the turret arc, apparently for no additional cost.

So I hope for an extra Roxal guard Interceptor pack and maybe some of the Phoenix squadron A-wings in another pack. With custom paint job and everything.

Because let’s face it. Only 2 named pilots for these 2 iconic ships? While stuff like the Mining guild Tie that no one has ever seen or asked for before gets 4? There must be something more coming for these ships...

42 minutes ago, Magnus Grendel said:

There's always the H-wing, winner of the "Fugliest Starfighter in the Galaxy" competition for about ten years running.

(Even the better quality images from Stay On Target look like a hunchbacked Y-wing indecently assaulting an A-wing from behind)

I guess now "medium" ships are a thing you might be able to make it into something interesting?

Yeah, even the K-Wing or Dengard toilet seat look really slick in comparison 😬

Edited by ForceM
14 minutes ago, ForceM said:

So I hope for an extra Roxal guard Interceptor pack

It wouldn't surprise me to see the RGI actually made a different ship.

You think it would be above FFG's ability/powers that they designed entirely new Rebel ships as they did with the Imperial Raider?
I mean... most of the ships we have were designed for videogames, comics, or books. It's not like those are any higher aristocracy compared with the second(?) most popular miniature game in the market, right?

1 hour ago, Azrapse said:

You think it would be above FFG's ability/powers that they designed entirely new Rebel ships as they did with the Imperial Raider?
I mean... most of the ships we have were designed for videogames, comics, or books. It's not like those are any higher aristocracy compared with the second(?) most popular miniature game in the market, right?

True. But there's also the issue of why; the 'unique fighter of character XYZ and some generic versions' (like the Havoc) is one thing, but by the time you've got A,B,E,K,U, X,Y & Z plus assorted non-alphabet-soup ships, it's kind of hard to figure out a 'niche' to justify the ship's existence.

What wouldn't surprise me to see - is the Naboo N-1. I'm not that much of a fan but it's a model they surely have to be planning to do at some point now Clone Wars is going to be a thing, because of the impressive roster of recognisable pilots across multiple eras you've canonically seen in it:

  • Anakin Skywalker/Bravo Flight - The Phantom Menace
  • Ahsoka Tano/Padme Amidala - Forces of Destiny: The Starfighter Stunt
  • Leia Organa/Shara Bey/Sosha Soruna - Battlefront II (& Shattered Empire comics)

Add in the existence of the N-1L (light) and N-1T (advanced) versions, and that's a lot of mileage. One even pops up (admittedly as an antique) during the First Order Cold War era.

Edited by Magnus Grendel

I hope there is still room for new ships. For example, with the end of Rebel Nym and the nerf of K-Wing, a new efficient bomber would be welcome in the rebel faction. Sabine is a nice crew card but there is not much to build around. However, I don't see which ship could play this role.

As new ships, i can possibly see;

  • The Raven's Claw (with Jan and Kyle crew cards)
  • YT-2000 (Otana, with a title that allows you to play Emon Azzameen in the Rebel Faction perhaps)
  • R60 T-Wing interceptor
  • Sphyrna-class Corvette (Hammerhead Corvette) for Epic play

Well, that's not much so i realy hope new content will be included in futur re-releases.

10 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said:
  • Anakin Skywalker/Bravo Flight - The Phantom Menace
  • Ahsoka Tano/Padme Amidala - Forces of Destiny: The Starfighter Stunt
  • Leia Organa/Shara Bey/Sosha Soruna - Battlefront II (& Shattered Empire comics)

This! ^

9 hours ago, Wrecker01 said:
  • The Raven's Claw (with Jan and Kyle crew cards)
  • YT-2000 (Otana, with a title that allows you to play Emon Azzameen in the Rebel Faction perhaps)
  • R60 T-Wing interceptor
  • Sphyrna-class Corvette (Hammerhead Corvette) for Epic play

And this! ^

15 hours ago, Odanan said:

I expect some Disney canon boxes instead:

Prototype B(lade)-Wing + 2 [Phoenix Squadron] A-Wings with Hera, Sabine and such.

[Elite] TIE Defender + 2 [Inferno Squad?] TIE Fighters OR 2 [Star Wars Rebels] TIE Interceptors.

New molds and Configurations for the B(lade)-Wing and [Elite] TIE Defender would be a must.

Oohhhh I'd looooove this.

11 hours ago, Wrecker01 said:

I hope there is still room for new ships. For example, with the end of Rebel Nym and the nerf of K-Wing, a new efficient bomber would be welcome in the rebel faction. Sabine is a nice crew card but there is not much to build around. However, I don't see which ship could play this role.

As new ships, i can possibly see;

  • The Raven's Claw (with Jan and Kyle crew cards)
  • YT-2000 (Otana, with a title that allows you to play Emon Azzameen in the Rebel Faction perhaps)
  • R60 T-Wing interceptor
  • Sphyrna-class Corvette (Hammerhead Corvette) for Epic play

Well, that's not much so i realy hope new content will be included in futur re-releases.

I reject the Raven's Claw.

16 hours ago, Azrapse said:

Yeah, I was about to say the T-wing, but even in the lore it was just an A-wing with torpedoes that sucked so badly that the rebels sold their stock to third parties.
I wonder how cool that would look as flavor text on the generics. :D

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