At some point in the not-to-far-back past, one of my friends found something in the rulebook that states that passive Plot Card effects take effect after all Active Effects. Examples: passives being something like Power of Blood (Nobles can't be killed) vs an Active like the Red Wedding (pick this, target that, kill something, do something else).

The moral of the story is that your Noble crest won't save you from being targetted and being killed by the Red Wedding.

However, in the recent Card of the Week, the gentleman who designed the new card was talking about the power of Noble Crests being useful because cards, like Power of Blood, will save you from other nasty plots of Valar or Wildfire.

Naturally that contradicts the way we've been playing.

At the end of the day, I'm sure we've been misinterpreting things, but it also wouldn't be the first time a simple mistake made its way into an article. Can anyone shed light on the situation?

Thank you berry much.

Red Wedding is "when revealed" passive effect, thus, according to FAQ ((2.2) Plot Effect Resolution, page 6), it resolves before any other passive effects.

But Power of Blood is a constant effect (there is no point of initiation), so "Continuous or constant plot effects take effect immediately and simultaneously, as soon as the plot cards are revealed."

So in simplicity, when you resolve Red Wedding, Power of Blood already affects the game.

MechaJeff said:

A couple of things:

- There is no such thing as an "active plot effect." Plots come in two flavors: passive or constatnt. Rogue does a great job explaining the difference. The only other possibility is "triggered," which is exceedingly rare on plots (I think there is 1).

- Not sure whether he misinterpreted which plot is which when he came up with the term "active" or whether he just switched things when he saw the rule, but your friend go it exactly backwards. Constant plots - like Power of Blood - are active an affecting the game from the moment they are revealed. Passive plots - like those with "when revealed" in the text - initiate when the game structure says passive effects are resolved.

All this means that Power of Blood will protect a Noble character from a "when revealed" plot revealed at the same time. You've been playing it backwards, which may have more to do with the mixed up definitions than anything else.

Excellent, thanks.

It sounds like we had the right rule, but as you mentioned, have simply been playing it backwards.

Good to know.

And yeah, Active and Passive were just my way as saying Passive and Constant. It was like 3am and I was just reaching for terminology.