Official Judges?

By trogdorwasaman, in KeyForge

10 hours ago, Amanal said:

Can you clarify how you track the player and the deck independently?

It's all in how you set up the initial registration. In a Triad event, for example, you would need to register one player and the three decks that player brought to the event. Then, when the match is played, you would have to record Deck vs. Deck results, and the software would recognize (because you put it in at the beginning) that when J. J. MacMurphy, Realm Runner defeats Mario the Pious Plumber; that means that Rabbitball won Game 1 vs. Kranod. Then a result of Luigi the Brother of Coveralls beating J. J. MacMurphy, Realm Runner means that Kranod has taken Game 2, and that the result between Akbar of the Balsawood Airplane (or Kanta Koven of Core Earth, whichever one wasn't struck at the beginning) vs. Luigi the Brother of Coveralls decides the match. (I absolutely hate Kranod's third deck, Princess Peach of the Mushroom Grove.) I might have a record of 1-4 with one of my decks but a 3-1 match record, and the Master Vault needs to track the deck results independently of my match results.

12 hours ago, Palpster said:

Yes, it should be chained, and if someone threw his matches just to get his own deck chained, well, good luck to them.

And when someone pays hundreds or thousands of USD for a deck that was listed as being 25-0 with 12 chains, plays it in a non-chainbound event and gets curbstomped because it's trash and only then finds out the 25-0 was set up by the former owner throwing Reversal events...Suffice it to say that there are unscrupulous people who will try to take advantage of anything.

19 hours ago, Rabbitball said:

And when someone pays hundreds or thousands of USD for a deck that was listed as being 25-0 with 12 chains, plays it in a non-chainbound event and gets curbstomped because it's trash and only then finds out the 25-0 was set up by the former owner throwing Reversal events...Suffice it to say that there are unscrupulous people who will try to take advantage of anything.

If you buy a bad deck without actually checking if it's good or not just because it has a good record... that's really on you tbh. It's not hard to see from the deck list if it's likely to be a stinker.

6 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

If you buy a bad deck without actually checking if it's good or not just because it has a good record... that's really on you tbh. It's not hard to see from the deck list if it's likely to be a stinker.

I've been surprised with decks on both ends. I have one deck with only one ADHD positive rating that I consistently win with, while another one has better ratings but I hover around 50%. The second deck has good cards that fight with one another in subtle ways, and that may be missed on casual examination. But the point is that every decision made incentivizes some strategies over others, so we want to make sure the right ones get promoted.

On 12/31/2018 at 10:53 AM, Rabbitball said:

I start from the assumption that tracking wins and losses is easy enough....

I think so, but then August to January without it seems to imply it is hard.

3 minutes ago, Amanal said:

I think so, but then August to January without it seems to imply it is hard.

It's not that hard to track them. Where complexity comes is using the tracked wins in an event to generate pairings and place rankings, followed by taking the tracked wins, applying them to the Master Vault, and then applying whatever formulas they want for chains, power level, etc. If they want it all before releasing anything, that would explain the delay. But I sympathize with the desire to just have the records put up and deal with the rest later.