release schedule

By signoftheserpent, in Rogue Trader

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Jenk said:

This thread has started down a tangent it seems. Whether or not the Creatures Anathema is strictly compatible or not doesn't really matter. What does matter is the fact that the Creatures Anathema is a useful book for Rogue Trader players, and even if I lacked Dark Heresy I would still purchase it.

Once again I would like to say thanks to those involved in the production of the game for stopping by and giving us what information you are allowed to pass on. It is always great to see you all involved in the community.

Signoftheserpent, I don't wish to offend.... but you are becoming a bit of a one man band, and the music isn't that good.... I understand your want for information (I certainly share it!), but sometimes you just need to be patient.

Patient?

FFG just posted comitting themselves to their customers saying they are working on material.

But they can't tell us what that material is?

That doesn't ring true at all.

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signoftheserpent said:

FFG just posted comitting themselves to their customers saying they are working on material.

But they can't tell us what that material is?

That doesn't ring true at all.

That depends on what you define as "FFG".

By day, I'm a civil servant. I work for Her Majesty's Government. Doesn't mean I am the government, nor that I can make decisions on its behalf in any way beyond the extremely narrow and specific remit of my particular job. The same can be said of anyone who works for a company or organisation, really, and FFG is no different.

The part of FFG that makes the decisions about which information can be released at what times (whomever that may be) is clearly and demonstrably different to the parts that write and develop the games, those that moderate the forums, and so forth. In short, nobody bound by NDAs is allowed to say anything until we're told we can, and we can't go into details about things that are not yet revealed. Even when book titles and descriptions come out, I can't discuss their contents in detail until those contents are revealed... and the same can be said of everybody privy to information about any forthcoming release.

I want to talk about the forthcoming releases I've worked on. I'm pretty certain that every person who has contributed towards these books wants to talk about what is forthcoming... but we don't have permission. You're free to not like the situation, but at least accept that we cannot change it - such decisions are out of our hands. Information will be released when it is released.

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N0-1_H3r3 said:

That depends on what you define as "FFG".

Well, this is what i'm responding to:

The Spaniard said:

All,

FFG does not announce our releases until we know when they can be released, and until we can speak intelligently about what will go in them.

The fear that FFG will not be supporting RT is unfounded, we have several books in the works and we have full time staff working every day to bring those products to you.

The Emperor Protects.

cP
FFG

I took it to mean that the person speaking was doing so on behalf of the company producing the books.

I realise there are NDA's etc, but those are set by FFG who can change or disregard them at will.

If FFG can say there are books coming out, then saying what they are isn't really a step too far.

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signoftheserpent said:

Well, this is what i'm responding to:

The Spaniard said:

All,

FFG does not announce our releases until we know when they can be released, and until we can speak intelligently about what will go in them.

The fear that FFG will not be supporting RT is unfounded, we have several books in the works and we have full time staff working every day to bring those products to you.

The Emperor Protects.

cP
FFG

I took it to mean that the person speaking was doing so on behalf of the company producing the books.

I realise there are NDA's etc, but those are set by FFG who can change or disregard them at will.

If FFG can say there are books coming out, then saying what they are isn't really a step too far.

No, "FFG" can't just disregard NDAs at will, for a variety of reasons. Some of those include the fact that part of the NDA is imposed on behalf of GW, who's IP all of this is, which means that GW need to give their permission as well for FFG employees to say anything. Plus, FFG employees are just that, employees. They are not the company, they have to defer to their bosses, who have to defer to their bosses, et cetera.

So yes, whilst he is acting as a representative of the company, it would still require the company's legal team to sign off on a release of information for said representative to tell you anything.

I think you'll find many of the large RPG companies, such as FFG and White Wolf, all have NDAs, which all mean that any release of info can only be done as and when the legal department and management decide it can be released. This isn't an FFG-only situation.

So, at present, yes, telling you anything other than stuff is being worked on is a step too far, because it's not going to happen. Whether you like it or not, your complaining isn't going to change jack-all, and that's pretty much the end of it. Nothing you say or do will change that situation. The only way anyone will get that changed is if you don't buy the books and FFG know that people aren't buying the books because of the lack of info, which is more likely to result in the RPG line getting shut down from lack of sales rather than a change in their legal policies.

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signoftheserpent said:

I took it to mean that the person speaking was doing so on behalf of the company producing the books.

I realise there are NDA's etc, but those are set by FFG who can change or disregard them at will.

There's a big difference between speaking on behalf of a company, and setting policy for it. If you're not willing to accept that, then clearly there's no getting through to you.

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N0-1_H3r3 said:

signoftheserpent said:

I took it to mean that the person speaking was doing so on behalf of the company producing the books.

I realise there are NDA's etc, but those are set by FFG who can change or disregard them at will.

There's a big difference between speaking on behalf of a company, and setting policy for it. If you're not willing to accept that, then clearly there's no getting through to you.

What is the point of posting to a board to say stuff is being worked on but refusing to even say what. Seems like a waste of time. Either the policy is to say nothing until the point of release or not. Random posts from someone who may or may not have the authority to diseminate information is really pointless.

I'm afraid I can't accord that post any credence. Sorry.

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I found it useful to have an FFG post say they are working on new RT material. I have been playing DH for years, and I got used to the previous FFG policy of publicizing a road map of DH products to come. The release dates were always missed, but I knew what they were working on, and I was confident I was not buying into a dead product line.

This new policy of "release information only when the book is at the printer in China" leads to lulls where there is no visible FFG support for Rogue Trader.

So, I liked to hear from the source that the line is alive.

I can only speculate on why they changed their policy. There was a lot of complaining about missed ship dates during the old policy, but I kind of expect that.

If that's the reason, I would prefer a middle of the road. Don't tell me what might come out in a year. The further out in time, the more likely for the predicted ship date to be missed. But tell me what the *next* project is.