If I was picking a very small (30-35 points tops) fighter force for an Ozzel list with BTA, Demo, two raiders and a Gozanti, which would be my best choice?
Ciena Rae and Valen Rudor, 4 TIE’s or maybe even something else (or even another Gozanti with Kallus ??? )
Thanks in advance.
Depends on what you’re trying to do. Ciena/Valen is a classic, as you mentioned. Are the Raiders kitted out for flak? Is Demo? Mauler is a good way to get suicidal auto-damage early if you’re prepared for your ships to contribute.
Edited by The JabbawookieIt’s a GSD 1 with Apt ‘s, and the raiders have OE and Ex Racks. I just want something to keep enemy fighters at bay for about a turn or two, or even hold some in place while the raiders off load into them.
Ciena/Valen is my Favorite.
6 hours ago, Thrindal said:Ciena/Valen is my Favorite.
I agree with this, however currently I may consider going Ciena/Whisper (or Ciena/Defender) if points allow due to Mithel and Dutch (i.e. autodamage that can kill Ciena fast)
Edited by PT10640 minutes ago, PT106 said:I agree with this, however currently I may consider going Ciena/Whisper (or Ciena/Defender) if points allow due to Mithel and Dutch (i.e. autodamage that can kill Ciena fast)
Interesting.
However, how Whisper or the Defender helps over Rudor?
I mean, I see both hitting Mithel better than Rudor but not duch, and don't see how they contribute do Ciena's durability (what you pointed out) either at a more expensive cost.
Honestly curious. What is the reasoning behind?
1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:Interesting.
However, how Whisper or the Defender helps over Rudor?
I mean, I see both hitting Mithel better than Rudor but not duch, and don't see how they contribute do Ciena's durability (what you pointed out) either at a more expensive cost.
Honestly curious. What is the reasoning behind?
Whisper has better repositioning abilities and more health. Defender has health and can be potentially utilized for mini-alpha strike. Also both of these are better bombers.
Another Ciena killer are Howlrunner and Flight Controllers. With that all of a sudden her ability isn't so powerful. I am still learning squads though, I find they are much more difficult to use correctly then ships.
I think, if you are first player, the best way to use them is to last/first and try and take out 2-3 squads if your lucky. Then hopefully they can take up a round of fighting from up to 4-5 more squads before they die. If they have Flight Controllers/Howlrunner you will die even quicker. You are really just trying to get a turn of relief out of them which you have to make the most of to neuter your opponents fleet.
The Ciena/Whisper combo looks good, but that cuts too much into my bid (with Ciena/Valen I'm at 390). The Ciena/defender combo is interesting ad I'd never considered that before. Would as well Soontir and a TIE advanced became good option too?
33 minutes ago, Herr Style said:The Ciena/Whisper combo looks good, but that cuts too much into my bid (with Ciena/Valen I'm at 390). The Ciena/defender combo is interesting ad I'd never considered that before. Would as well Soontir and a TIE advanced became good option too?
Not as much, because if the opponent can reposition he would be able to engage Soontir without engaging TIE/Adv
12 minutes ago, PT106 said:Not as much, because if the opponent can reposition he would be able to engage Soontir without engaging TIE/Adv
Gotcha!
It’s also worth noting that Slicer Tools can be a good antisquad investment that’s effective against squadronless fleets too.
On 12/10/2018 at 1:41 PM, The Jabbawookie said:It’s also worth noting that Slicer Tools can be a good antisquad investment that’s effective against squadronless fleets too.
Yea I would do this or add slicers to the current gozanti and just add ciena and maybe suppressor
Edited by Cleto0A screen that got used against me that worked quite well was:
Mauler Mithel, Tempest, TIE Adv. and a Jumpmaster.
I like howl, mauler, 3 tie fighter, jump.
67 points ISD I can fling am all...
Just focus down the double dice bombers
Ciena Lambda. Give yourself objective flexibility
one of the ones that I have used before would be Howlrunner and saber squad. 5 blue die snipe. I had a good time with that one