http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Starhawk-class_battleship

so I was re-reading the wiki for the Starhawk, and I found this paragraph:

As the Resistance U-55 orbital loadlifters were being destroyed by the Supremacy after they evacuated from the Raddus , General Leia Organa tried to imagine a miracle where Inferno Squad returned from ^[4] their mission to find the Resistance's allies in the Outer Rim Territories ^[5] with a task force of Starhawks.

Of course the (neo)inferno squad and starhawks did not arrive from the Outer Rim to save the day in ep8, but there is a high chance they could appear in ep9! If so, it makes sense why star wars and the Maus has not released any designs or shots for the Starhawk. Who's commanding them? Probably Lando since our fav fishface was defenestrated. If not in ep9, then highly likely in other media that continues the story of Inferno Squad

ffg then may also be waiting to release sequel factions first before dropping the Hawk as both a rebellion and resistance compatible Huge. Hope they get crazy tractor beams or experimental retrofits

That's a cool idea and I think we're all hoping for something like that. I think what's more likely, is that we'll see Starhawks in Star Wars Resistance, likely in Season 2. (Though possibly the end of season 1).

What's interesting about the Starhawks is that they're supposed to be newer than the Raddus. So if we're going by strict timelines and they include Starhawks in Armada, they should be allowed to include the MC85. Except that's not how the real world works.

My impression from the Aftermath series was that Starhawks were comparable to an ISD or MC80 (during the Battle of Jakku Home One was still Admiral Ackbar's flagship and the command ship for the Republic fleet). Three of them were able to take on an SSD, but still not that successfully. I think they'd be better as a Large ship than a Huge one; just one more focused on firepower than command/support.

But, of course, we have little idea what they look like, and I imagine FFG probably won't be allowed to design them from scratch.

34 minutes ago, Grumbleduke said:

What's interesting about the Starhawks is that they're supposed to be newer than the Raddus. So if we're going by strict timelines and they include Starhawks in Armada, they should be allowed to include the MC85. Except that's not how the real world works.

Are they though?

I mean If I recall correctly they were built during the galactic civil war, while the mc85 line was supposedly build after the war.

on a similar note:

I‘d also say that starhawk is rather only large and not huge.

37 minutes ago, Grumbleduke said:

My impression from the Aftermath series was that Starhawks were comparable to an ISD or MC80 (during the Battle of Jakku Home One was still Admiral Ackbar's flagship and the command ship for the Republic fleet). Three of them were able to take on an SSD, but still not that successfully. I think they'd be better as a Large ship than a Huge one; just one more focused on firepower than command/support.

But, of course, we have little idea what they look like, and I imagine FFG probably won't be allowed to design them from scratch.

Yea it took 3 of them to take down 1 successfully, and even then 2 were lost in the process. I imagine something akin to 3x hammerheads vs an ISD. They can likely takedown the ISD but will certainly lose 2 in the process haha. As for size I think ffg could do something other than SSD base for Huge. If Huge is determined as anything larger than Large, the ship token for the Starhawk could be shorter in length, or even narrower at the front and use a medium/small base at the front(which will make for some interesting arcs)

Ya I guess the Maus would already have blueprints for the ship in the wings, but if ffg could take the reins for design like with the Raider that'd be really cool.

this again? come on lads, lucrehulk epic shared between rebel and CIS faction. multipurpose dem boats.

starhawks sadly, a large.

43 minutes ago, Captain_Nemo said:

I mean If I recall correctly they were built during the galactic civil war, while the mc85 line was supposedly build after the war.

There's a reference somewhere (although no longer on Wookieepedia) to the Raddus being under construction during the Battle of Endor but not quite ready in time for it, whereas the Starhawks were supposed to have been built from dismantled Star Destroyers and other ships captured at the Battle of Endor.

They're all Civil War Era as the Republic wasn't really allowed to build big starships under the terms of the Galactic Concordance and based on the Military Disarmament Act.

So to throw my 2c in, the Starhawk, as a battleship, would be larger and more heavily armed, armored, and shielded than either an ISD or MC80, and should probably be larger than even the 3.2km version of Home One or the MC85 Raddus. (My own thought would be to have it somewhere between 3.0 and 4.5 km) Since the accepted definition of a battleship-class ship is a class larger than the ISDs but a class smaller than the SSD's Dreadnought class.

It seems in Aftermath they stayed at long range from the ISDs to minimize the effective firepower of Ravager until the ISD line broke formation.

After the Starhawks got into firing range on Ravager they took a heavy beating from Ravager and were lost due to a irrationally executed ram by a nearly crippled ISD.

It seemed to me that the only reason they took down Ravager was due to the close proximity of Jakku's gravity well coupled with the fighter strike on Ravagers engines in support of Amity's tractor beam engagement.

It seems like engaging and destroying Ravager was the primary goal, but it is hard to determine how the New Republic fleet strategy changed due to the presence of the escorting ISDs around Ravager, and how much of a shift in the operation was made when CDR Agate moved in to engage Ravager relatively early in the engagement (since it doesnt seem like ADM Ackbar ordered the strike or was happy that Agate maneuvered to press the attack into Ravager at that moment).

So the only things I can really infer about the Starhawk class battleship is this: it is larger than an ISD, it is probably equal in maneuverability and command responsiveness as the ISD, but has heavier weapons, better shields, and better shield recovery, but is a bit more vulnerable to Critical damage. It also has experimental and highly effective tractor beams, allowing it to lock and drag a ship many times larger than itself.

So game wise, it seems like it would either need to be scaled to fit on a large base, or have a new base size extra large, between Large and Huge. Maybe XL could be the same width as Large but 20mm longer?

It really is that wierd sort of in between. Too big for a large, too small for huge.

I think your evaluation is good though. A shield heavy ship with lots of red dice and 1-2 experimental retrofit slots.