I don’t know how much my little opinion matters to the big ‘ole FFG gods, but if I could just make a small request: can we please frontload the Republic and Seperarist armies with at least “Wave 2” equivalent of expansions?

To clarify, I am totally ok with the current release schedule for the Galactic Civil War as I am a slow painter and taking my time on each expansion over a month or two really helps.

However, I don’t think doing the same release schedule as Rebel/Imps for GAR/Sep’s will be good for the health of the armies. The Rebel/Imps will have tons of units including 3 special forces, an operative, 4 commander options, etc... while the GAR/Sep’s will have only the standard 1 commander, 1 corps, 1 support, 1 heavy. Which, to be honest, will not be competitive compared to the already released armies.

To avoid this imbalance I, and many others on discord, propose they release a comparable starting force of around: 2 commander, 2 corps, 2 support, 1 special forces, 1 heavy.

Does that sound pretty comparable to the current armies?? Thoughts?

I think there might be a faulty premise here i.e. that FFG has a production capability they're not using. Given the rate at which they're cranking out content (more than any other game), I don't find that premise compelling. A better question: Would you rather have CIS?GAR recieve an initial release of 1/1/1 with the same release rate as now or release multiple waves at once, but leave a gap in the schedule? For me, both of these outcomes lead to the same place. Maybe they have production they can divert from other games, but I'm not sure if it would be enough to change the release rate, even for a wave.

3 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

Maybe they have production they can divert from other games, but I'm not sure if it would be enough to change the release rate, even for a wave.

Its essentially and generally assumed they've already diverted production from Armada and IA just to produce for Legion what they are now.... Which really, only leaves X-Wing in that same production line to get scaled back - and that's a tough call to assume for them to make.

56 minutes ago, RaptorRitter13 said:

competitive compared

These are the concepts that create much of the angst and unhappiness in something that's supposed to be fun. Competitive thinking and making comparisons to others, they are not zen.

We have no idea what the initial rollout will contain. It might have 1/1/1 or more, or less. Whatever it is, it's probably already decided.

What I would guess is, Clone Wars is going to take over almost an entire year's release schedule. They'll drop one GCW unit every other wave or so, to keep us from wandering away. But at the end of 2019 I think CW and GCW will be on roughly equal footing for products to choose from.

One upside to later factions is that they tend to be better honed and tested versus certain abilities in early factions that were too good or not very good, but weren't proven otherwise until competition.

Even if they don't release much right away, I expect the model capabilities to be better on average than some early Rebel and empire units. Not necessarily because of any better abilities, just better tested.

Just now, crx3800 said:

One upside to later factions is that they tend to be better honed and tested versus certain abilities in early factions that were too good or not very good, but weren't proven otherwise until competition.

Even if they don't release much right away, I expect the model capabilities to be better on average than some early Rebel and empire units. Not necessarily because of any better abilities, just better tested.

Is there a particular “flaw” you see in the current corps units?

I think Nimble and Precise were stacked up against each other as if they were equal abilities, and they are not at all.

Otherwise, not really. But if they look for something completely different in abilities for Republic and Droid corps, we might see some new interesting abilities come from that as well.

Honestly, I don’t care if they do one corps/support/heavy at launch or if they do multiples. I just want to see what they’ve got planned.

If they slow down GCW releases to fuel it, it’s more likely I’ll buy in for one faction.

I'm guessing the Rogue One wave will be the last of the "frequent" Civil War releases and we should see Clone Wars start to pour in. Hopefully, we will get slower Civil War releases so players can easily swap factions or build a second one.

i think they will have to release a commander, a corps, and a support unit for each side at release so that they can field a full legal list at 800 points right out of the gate. They will probably come out with a heavy as well to match the release of the GCW faction at launch.

46 minutes ago, Derrault said:

Is there a particular “flaw” you see in the current corps units?

I want at least a 3rd corps unit so that we can fulfill the minimum requirement without taking duplicate units.

One thing I see as a broad flaw is the whole recover action for the corps heavy weapons, and how has made a lot of weapons really hard to use. Its seems like something was missed and they thought we'd be recovering all the time but now we aren't. So we're stuck with "Hold on there men! No one do ANYTHING! Jones has to reload."

I'm not opposed to the idea of the recover but it's not like we're recovering constantly for morale purposes and thereby killing 2 birds with one stone. Nor does it make sense that the weapons that need those actions cost so much more. I actually really like Ion guns and such, but don't get to take as many as I'd like because they cost more and then I can't afford to play with as many toys in my collection.

Another interesting question is, if the CW stuff should come out with the same non-specific upgrade cards as their corresponding GCW units. So far cross faction buying for cards has been eliminated by mirrored universal upgrades. FFG would ruin that if the Clone Wars came with others. On the other hand a huge bunch of expansions/waves with nothing new on that front would kind of stale the development for the game, especially for GCW faction only players.

1 minute ago, LennoxPoodle said:

Another interesting question is, if the CW stuff should come out with the same non-specific upgrade cards as their corresponding GCW units. So far cross faction buying for cards has been eliminated by mirrored universal upgrades. FFG would ruin that if the Clone Wars came with others. On the other hand a huge bunch of expansions/waves with nothing new on that front would kind of stale the development for the game, especially for GCW faction only players.

I suspect they will have some new and some old. GCW units will backfill to include the new (maybe imperial army troops from solo end up being how you get this cool card in prequel armies?)

Theres going to be lots of unique/specific though.

I am curious how close republic AT-RT will match rebel one, and if you can (casually) proxy an old core set one for the republic one.

1 minute ago, ScummyRebel said:

I suspect they will have some new and some old. GCW units will backfill to include the new (maybe imperial army troops from solo end up being how you get this cool card in prequel armies?)

Theres going to be lots of unique/specific though.

I am curious how close republic AT-RT will match rebel one, and if you can (casually) proxy an old core set one for the republic one.

Possible differences could be, a different handheld/all round weapon (maybe a weaker pistol), build in blaster cannon, other/no weapon upgrades and maybe the possibility to field them in squadrons of two. Those are just some ideas on the matter.

1 hour ago, crx3800 said:

I think Nimble and Precise were stacked up against each other as if they were equal abilities, and they are not at all.

Otherwise, not really. But if they look for something completely different in abilities for Republic and Droid corps, we might see some new interesting abilities come from that as well.

Which did you think was better? For my own view, each shores up the weakness of the innate stats on the unit (Rebels have weak defense dice, so a defensive power makes sense, Imperials have weak offense dice, so re-rolls make sense).

1 hour ago, ScummyRebel said:

I am curious how close republic AT-RT will match rebel one, and if you can (casually) proxy an old core set one for the republic one.

I was thinking about that the other day. They could just sculpt a new pilot and have an extra support unit ready on day 1.

1 hour ago, LennoxPoodle said:

FFG would ruin that if the Clone Wars came with others. On the other hand a huge bunch of expansions/waves with nothing new on that front would kind of stale the development for the game, especially for GCW faction only players.

Hopefully they just double the number of cards in the boxes.

15 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

I was thinking about that the other day. They could just sculpt a new pilot and have an extra support unit ready on day 1.

I’m actually hoping something like this works out. I have my core set ATRT left because nobody wanted or needed it.

If I can proxy it in a game under republic faction, that would be kinda fun. I don’t have any rebels left, and if I were to buy into prequels it’d probably be republic so I can balance out the light/dark (that and seems we need some GAR in a world of “roger roger”). I wouldn’t say it would push me to buy in, but I certainly would take advantage of it if I could.

58 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

I’m actually hoping something like this works out. I have my core set ATRT left because nobody wanted or needed it.

If I can proxy it in a game under republic faction, that would be kinda fun. I don’t have any rebels left, and if I were to buy into prequels it’d probably be republic so I can balance out the light/dark (that and seems we need some GAR in a world of “roger roger”). I wouldn’t say it would push me to buy in, but I certainly would take advantage of it if I could.

It is never going to stop cracking me up that they called it the Grand Army of the Republic. Maybe in the next movie we'll get Pinkertons.

It wouldn’t surprise me if they go the same route as they did when introducing Scum into X-Wing - enough of an initial selection to hook people and then releases will be staggered with CIS/GAR, but with 2 releases of CIS/GAR for a while to catch up.

and then again, I could be totally off base

2 hours ago, DangerShine Designs said:

It wouldn’t surprise me if they go the same route as they did when introducing Scum into X-Wing - enough of an initial selection to hook people and then releases will be staggered with CIS/GAR, but with 2 releases of CIS/GAR for a while to catch up.

and then again, I could be totally off base

Or they've made so much money they will increase their overall production capacity and wow us all! Or so I hope.

I'm struggling to keep up with current release schedule let alone stepping up the clone wars one.

18 minutes ago, DarkTrooperZero said:

I'm struggling to keep up with current release schedule let along stepping up the clone wars one.

That’s why I chose one faction. Still not easy, but presumably my GCW expenditures would be decreasing when I’m buying new prequel stuff.

23 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

That’s why I chose one faction. Still not easy, but presumably my GCW expenditures would be decreasing when I’m buying new prequel stuff.

This is really cheap compared to other games which helps 2-faction people too.

3 hours ago, DarkTrooperZero said:

I'm struggling to keep up with current release schedule let alone stepping up the clone wars one.

From a painting and playing standpoint, so am I. Most of my rebs are done, almost none of my Imps are done yet I keep stocking up on molded plastic...

5 hours ago, DangerShine Designs said:

From a painting and playing standpoint, so am I. Most of my rebs are done, almost none of my Imps are done yet I keep stocking up on molded plastic...

I am on that treadmill with ye olde metal. So for Legion I had to swear off buying faster than I can paint.

Yuzzems have an interesting new upgrade cards? No thanks, I still have my [whatevers] to paint...