4 hours ago, SOTL said:

Get over it.

Hang on, is this really too much to ask for?

I don't know that I'd buy one for myself, but what's wrong with more options? What's wrong with people wanting era specific core sets?

It seems like a good idea to me. Let people buy in with the factions they're more likely to play.

43 minutes ago, SOTL said:

Here's the game, there's the door... it's your call.

Woah, woah. Who pissed in your coffee?

Are people just not allowed to want things in the game anymore? Is this really a completely binary thing, either be 100% happy with how things are or leave entirely?

Aren't you the guy that keeps complaining about the state of the Extended format meta? Haven't you made several posts suggesting that a) point costs for Extended format need rebalancing b) Rebels need new crew cards and c) Second Edition format should be played more?

So why aren't you taking your own medicine? If you don't think things are perfect with 2e right now, and that things could be improved why aren't you heading for the door?

7 minutes ago, GuacCousteau said:

Hang on, is this really too much to ask for?

I don't know that I'd buy one for myself, but what's wrong with more options? What's wrong with people wanting era specific core sets?

It seems like a good idea to me. Let people buy in with the factions they're more likely to play.

Woah, woah. Who pissed in your coffee?

Are people just not allowed to want things in the game anymore? Is this really a completely binary thing, either be 100% happy with how things are or leave entirely?

Aren't you the guy that keeps complaining about the state of the Extended format meta? Haven't you made several posts suggesting that a) point costs for Extended format need rebalancing b) Rebels need new crew cards and c) Second Edition format should be played more?

So why aren't you taking your own medicine? If you don't think things are perfect with 2e right now, and that things could be improved why aren't you heading for the door?

a) points costs being changed have been announced and are going to happen

b) new Rebel crew cards seems like something we can expect to be printed at some point, it's going to happen

c) Second Edition format (now Hyperspace) WILL be played more as its been announced for a lot of 2019 OP, it's going to happen.

So all the things I talk about are not in a 'oh lordy will nobody hear my pleas' sort of sense, but is instead 'have patience, all this is stuff we know is coming'.

This thread, though, is just yet another pitiful whine from a forum full of pitiful whiners who will never be happy until FFG custom build them precisely the pony they told Santa they wanted. There won't be a new Core Set. There's no need for a new Core Set. If you don't want to buy the current Core Set then that's fine, you just won't be able to play X-Wing. Bye!

The front page of this forum:

• Whining about Afterburners
• Whining about the Core Set
• Whining about Y-Wings
• Whining about Rebels
• Whining about Streamers
• Whining about Wave 2 not having been here a month ago
• Whining about Trick Shot
• Whining about R2-D2

And now, thanks to me, whining about whining.

Edit: Sorry, I also missed:

• Whining about Quick Build points

7 minutes ago, SOTL said:

a) points costs being changed have been announced and are going to happen

b) new Rebel crew cards seems like something we can expect to be printed at some point, it's going to happen

c) Second Edition format (now Hyperspace) WILL be played more as its been announced for a lot of 2019 OP, it's going to happen.

So all the things I talk about are not in a 'oh lordy will nobody hear my pleas' sort of sense, but is instead 'have patience, all this is stuff we know is coming'.

This thread, though, is just yet another pitiful whine from a forum full of pitiful whiners who will never be happy until FFG custom build them precisely the pony they told Santa they wanted. There won't be a new Core Set. There's no need for a new Core Set. If you don't want to buy the current Core Set then that's fine, you just won't be able to play X-Wing. Bye!

You’re right, we have no precedent for non-OT core sets... 😔

1 minute ago, SpiderMana said:

You’re right, we have no precedent for non-OT core sets... 😔

That came out 3 years after the original core set, not 3 months.

Get a ******* grip.

2 minutes ago, SOTL said:

Get a ******* grip.

Take a **** joke?

This is a reasonable and good idea, the kind of feedback FFG needs to attract customers.

Remember when people asked for more frequent rebalancing, including point costs, and some kept saying that FFG would never change the point costs of stuff because they were printed? Now we have trimestral point rebalancing.
Some even asked for some cards to have variable point costs, and some immediately attacked them with claims of overcomplicating the game? Now we have card with variable point costs.
Remember when people asked for card packs and some said that wasn't the best business decision for FFG? Now we have special wave baggies included in the conversion kits for those waves that bring previously released ships.
Remember when some asked for the Gunboat and many argued that it was non-canon, and unfitting for the Imperial aesthetics?
Remember when people asked for turrets not to be 360 degrees, and instead use mobile arcs? Some responded with the old "learn to play" argument.
Remember when people asked for a second edition of the game?

Well, none of that would have happened if people had not asked for it.
The game (or anything in life, really) won't progress until you ***** a bit about it.

Protest.
Don't honor apathy.
Do not conform.

14 minutes ago, SOTL said:

Whining about Afterburners

Also I resent this one a bit, as I was asking if they had shown up in Sequel stuff moreso than complaining 😂

10 minutes ago, Azrapse said:

This is a reasonable and good idea, the kind of feedback FFG needs to attract customers.

Remember when people asked for more frequent rebalancing, including point costs, and some kept saying that FFG would never change the point costs of stuff because they were printed? Now we have trimestral point rebalancing.
Some even asked for some cards to have variable point costs, and some immediately attacked them with claims of overcomplicating the game? Now we have card with variable point costs.
Remember when people asked for card packs and some said that wasn't the best business decision for FFG? Now we have special wave baggies included in the conversion kits for those waves that bring previously released ships.
Remember when some asked for the Gunboat and many argued that it was non-canon, and unfitting for the Imperial aesthetics?
Remember when people asked for turrets not to be 360 degrees, and instead use mobile arcs? Some responded with the old "learn to play" argument.
Remember when people asked for a second edition of the game?

Well, none of that would have happened if people had not asked for it.
The game (or anything in life, really) won't progress until you ***** a bit about it.

Protest.
Don't honor apathy.
Do not conform.

1 hour ago, SOTL said:

So he's choosing the door? Ok. Next!

Way to support your hobby.

And I wasn't whining about Y-Wings, per se. I was celebrating the T-70 and wishing other ships were like that, the Y-Wing being a notable example.

8 hours ago, Okapi said:

They don't need another core set as much as an X-Wing Essentials pack. There's still no way to get new templates and damage decks without either buying a core set or going through a third party. They sell dice, so why not those things too?

I think this is by design.

2 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

If a new player wants to get into the game and is told they have to buy a box with 3 ships in it just to get templates and a damage deck, then throw the ships away to buy the faction they really want, that is a barrier to entry.

Sure, I understand the argument, but it also seems a bit biased from somebody who has years and years of experience though. The X-wing and TIE fighter are the two most iconic ships in the Star Wars universe. Somebody who is completely new and uninitiated to the game won't necessarily know or care that there are other factions and ships. I got into the game around wave eight. I saw X-Wings and TIEs on the board and saw that I could fly them. When I got into this game I had never seen Rebels, I had seen maybe 10 episodes of the Clone Wars series, and I still haven't read any Star Wars books. But I saw X-Wings and TIEs and I wanted them. A single jumping off point is a good baseline for the game. Keeping a single core makes things so much simpler for the new players and the company trying to bring in new players who like Star Wars but maybe not to the level that they only want to fly certain ships.

It would have been nice to not have to buy a third core set with another X-Wing and 2 TIEs "just to get the templates and deck", but that's only because I already have everything.

1 hour ago, SOTL said:

...

c) Second Edition format (now Hyperspace) WILL be played more as its been announced for a lot of 2019 OP, it's going to happen.

...

Pretty much sums up the competitive scene for X-wing (at least the one that OP is pushing).

I always find it funny that starter sets tend to have two incomplete lists from two different sides. I always thought it would be better for a starter set to include just 1 faction but a legal list and all the components to play the game. I know the core is set up as a teaching tool hence the two sides and limited list selection. But it does mean if you don't plan on playing those factions then you are stuck with 3 models you don't need.

That being said I don't think having three different era core will be the best for X-wing. You still have the same problem, one of those factions is going to just be extra models.

3 hours ago, Okapi said:

Rocks and dice are the same, but you need a damage deck and templates. Some pilots and upgrades are also exclusive to the core set.

Are the templates different?

2 minutes ago, ObiWan said:

Are the templates different?

Yes. No in shape but they have new markings on that are needed to play.

I mean, there are good arguments against additional core sets. Crying "apathy" without acknowledging and addressing them is asinine.

16 hours ago, period3 said:

Right now anyone who wants to play has to buy a rebel vs imperial core set. New players may not want to invest in those factions, for one, and x-wing 1.0 players with loads of x-wings and tie fighters do not want to buy more. Can we please get a resistance vs FO core set?

Awkwardly proxying a core set until then, or until somebody gets me a core set for xmas.

I’d like to just buy the damage deck and maneuver templates.

I was thinking the same. It's rather disheartening to tell an eager new player that they have to spend 40+ on a bunch of plastic that they will not use before then going on to spend another 30 for a bunch of cardboard before then going on to buy multiple 15+ expansions. Add a $40 mat on it and it's really flipping expensive to fly FO and resistance straight out of the gate. The game is too pricey to get into for non OT players. I think a templates + dice + damage cards + generic cards core set for $20 would help ease the pain a bit though, but its FFG, so they absolutely will not do it.

Personally I don't want any more core sets. The Squad packs that are coming in Wave 3 seem like something that could be done for each faction as a kind of single faction starter. An essentials pack that contains the dice, templates, rocks, a damage deck, and a range ruler would be needed for that to work though. The core sets that FFG puts out are a good value for your money, but now that we have 7 factions it seems to make more sense to give people options on how they get into the game. More core sets could accomplish that goal too, but if you don't want to play both factions in the core set, they can be looked at as a bit of a waste of money. I don't play Imperials and really wasn't happy about having to buy a third pair of Tie's I would never use. Plus core sets always have exclusive components that can't be obtained any other way. If one comes out featuring a pilot you want, you have to buy that core set.

I'm just gonna hope that Squad packs will replace core sets for every faction. It feels like a better way of getting into the game, specifically if you're on a budget or only want to follow one or two of the factions.

I made Uglies with my spare X-wings/TIEs from starter sets. Not a solution for everyone, but I got something out of it.

A 2.0 set for Resistance/FO seems likely, as does a Separatist/Republic one, down the line.

You don't have too many X-wings and Ties if you play HotAC... just saying...

But if you feel that strongly, you can send them to me, and I will provide a loving home for them.

-Scum player.

5 minutes ago, RuusMarev said:

You don't have too many X-wings and Ties if you play HotAC... just saying...

But if you feel that strongly, you can send them to me, and I will provide a loving home for them.

-Scum player.

Or you'll butcher them into Uglies, like @Ikka .

Basterds.

2 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Or you'll butcher them into Uglies, like @Ikka .

Basterds.

right.. or that.

4 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Or you'll butcher them into Uglies, like @Ikka .

Basterds.

Its not butchery, just... creative salvaging.

2 minutes ago, Ikka said:

Its not butchery, just... creative salvaging.

I've always liked "reallocated"