Set Pre Rebels Series Finale and deals with the rivalry between Thrawn and Krennic.

Given how much of the old EU was hinted at in the final season of Rebels, it’ll be interesting to read what gets fully recanonized or explained further.

We know Pallaeon and Dreadnaughts are momentarily in the show but maybe if they appear in this book to any significant depth it will be enough for FFG to produce them?

In before this thread goes crazy. Also Mafia plug for Podracer.

Look interesting though. I'll try to read it at some point.

Specifics (-ish) on the novel posted here:

https://www.starwars.com/news/get-a-first-look-at-timothy-zahns-thrawn-treason-exclusive

I still need to catch up on the new book portion of the universe. There are almost as many novels out now, as there are Halo novels.

36 minutes ago, Ling27 said:

I still need to catch up on the new book portion of the universe. There are almost as many novels out now, as there are Halo novels.

FYI: most are kind of garbage, sadly. I think a lot of us got our hopes up with the Disney takeover and unification under the story group that some kind of standard would be achieved, given the legacy-Lucasfilm-licensing's wildly swinging from great to poor quality.

And who knows, maybe it has - settling for a tepid "mediocre". Even Timothy Zahn's Thrawn novels feel...oddly limited. Disney seems deathly afraid of giving print stories a chance to shine a light on any but the tiniest and most insignificant corners of the universe...and certainly never overlapping in any way with anything that might appear on-screen. In such a framework, even the best writers suffer - and Disney hasn't always used the best.

Of the new canon novels so far the only ones I’d call good books (in general, not just Star Wars) are the Thrawn novels. They’ve also been made into exceptional audio Books which I highly recommend.

Unfortunately the Thrawn novels are trapped in the cracks of Rebels. It’s infuriating seeing how much Zahn is trapped by the story points of a poorly written cartoon, which has now made it so we can’t get future Thrawn adventures in the Empire era.

The Rogue One novelization and Tarkin are excellent Star Wars novels.

Lost Stars is okay but clearly meant for a young romance audience.

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I honestly think where Disney screwed up is trying to have an EU before the sequel trilogy finished.

Rebels for instance is harmed significantly by mostly being created before Rogue One and Solo and therefore preventing it from incorporating designs of those films. By the time Rogue One stuff like tanks creep in, it just feels tacked on. For me this creates a strange dissonance between Rebels and the films in general.

The Aftermath Trilogy suffers heavily from what was clearly a rushed publishing deadline. Plus the story is so fundamental to the new canon choosing Wendig over a veteran SW novel, it absolutely pales in comparison to its EU counterpart, the Thrawn Trilogy.

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If I were running things I would’ve waited till after the Last Jedi (so this year) to start releasing the major trilogy of books covering post ROTJ life and would’ve given the job to someone you know will write a solid series like Michael Stackpole or James Luceno or Timothy Zahn.

For the last three years I would have only pushed stories that occur just prior to the sequel trilogy or between A New Hope and Return.

Then after episode nine releases, I would open the EU up to tons of new stories and books.

I think the first Thrawn book was Great, the second one was okay it had it's good parts, but I think it introduced interesting things that hopefully this book can build on.

2 hours ago, xero989 said:

I think the first Thrawn book was Great, the second one was okay it had it's good parts, but I think it introduced interesting things that hopefully this book can build on.

I loved the first book but the second book was a chore to get through. I'm honestly tired of anakin/vader. There just isn't anything else to say about that character that hasn't been said before, he tends to work best in modern tellings the way he was in Rogue One as a boogie man/Jason Voorhees.

I still enjoy Thrawn but I'm concerned he might eventually become a little too "just as planned"-y.

I really liked the difference between the Anakin-Thrawn and Vader-Thrawn relationship in the second book. It had one inconsistency with the films though. At several occasions ships in orbit of moons and planets are too close for the jump into hyperspace, whilst the U-Wing in R1 can jump out of the atmosphere.

6 minutes ago, LennoxPoodle said:

I really liked the difference between the Anakin-Thrawn and Vader-Thrawn relationship in the second book. It had one inconsistency with the films though. At several occasions ships in orbit of moons and planets are too close for the jump into hyperspace, whilst the U-Wing in R1 can jump out of the atmosphere.

If you add the word “safely”, there’s no inconsistency.

@Drasnighta Well, whether I'm getting chased by a star destroyer or planetary explosion makes no difference regarding bypassing safety protocols for me.

1 hour ago, LennoxPoodle said:

@Drasnighta Well, whether I'm getting chased by a star destroyer or planetary explosion makes no difference regarding bypassing safety protocols for me.

To you, sure... But that’s not universally implied... Especially on the odds of death versus each other.

Jedha was “do now and maybe die, or dont do and definitely die”, no questions, no possibilities, no chances, no time.

Being chased by an SD? Well, maybe there’s still “some maneuvers” up your sleeve. Maybe they’ll take you alive rather than instantly vaporizing you, when pulling the lever has a 98% chance of scattering your atoms between here and wild space...

Its VERY tough to assign an “always” to this stuff and call it an inconsistency without ALL the data.

It might also have something to do with relative ship masses, too - “Tarkin” references the fact that a large ship coming out of hyperspace too close to a moon could tweak its orbit, and thus, the closer the relative masses are, the worse the damage is, whereas you get away with it when the masses of the driver are smaller (U Wing at Jedha, Falcon at Starkiller) ?

i mean, I don’t know - but I’m positing that there at least “could” be a probable explanation without it being “inconsistent “ 🙂

@Drasnighta I guess your reasoning is quite solid. Only the argument of maybe not getting blasted away doesn't quite work for the "scene" I meant. In the book the people attempting to flee evidently prefer blowing themselves up instead of getting captured and there secrets being revealed.

12 hours ago, LennoxPoodle said:

@Drasnighta I guess your reasoning is quite solid. Only the argument of maybe not getting blasted away doesn't quite work for the "scene" I meant. In the book the people attempting to flee evidently prefer blowing themselves up instead of getting captured and there secrets being revealed.

In that case, it could be a simple as of hardware. The Falcon is an over- modified smuggling ship, and the U-wing in R1 was assigned to an intelligent agent. Both would have had a kill switch on the Hyperdrive safeties.

The ship in the second Thrawn book may simply have lacked that modifications

27 minutes ago, cynanbloodbane said:

In that case, it could be a simple as of hardware. The Falcon is an over- modified smuggling ship, and the U-wing in R1 was assigned to an intelligent agent. Both would have had a kill switch on the Hyperdrive safeties.

The ship in the second Thrawn book may simply have lacked that modifications

IIRC, Dark Empire radio drama had a jump to hyperspace within a planetary gravity well.

Not impossible in either continuities just very dangerous.

On 12/6/2018 at 2:02 PM, dominosfleet said:

I loved the first book but the second book was a chore to get through. I'm honestly tired of anakin/vader. There just isn't anything else to say about that character that hasn't been said before, he tends to work best in modern tellings the way he was in Rogue One as a boogie man/Jason Voorhees.

I still enjoy Thrawn but I'm concerned he might eventually become a little too "just as planned"-y.

I agree, and I think with all these different Vader stories the Emperor tests Vader a little too often, Vader's status as a main villain is almost in doubt at this point.

On 12/5/2018 at 10:29 PM, Forresto said:

If  I were running things I would’ve waited till after the Last Jedi (so this year) to start releasing the major trilogy of books covering post ROTJ life and would’ve given the job to someone you know will  write a solid series  like  Michael Stackpole or James Luceno or Timothy Zahn.   

I've heard that they realized that mistake and it's the reason we've seen a draw back in novels. You'll notice Zahn is just about the only one getting major novels at the moment.