Up here: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=1264

Very nice write up, Erick. Those spoilers look fantastic. I'm especially glad to see the event. Not only will it give Stark a bit of a boost, but the war crest should become more useful, and therefore other war crest effects should become more common. (I like the idea of Price of War growing in popularity to balance out some of the locations that otherwise appear to have little vulnerability.)

That Grey Wind also looks pretty terrifying. Unfortunately, given the low STR of many playable Targ/Martell characters, this attachment on Robb will be able to kill 80% of the characters I play in my decks.... I'm wondering if there's any way I can fit him in a Targ burn deck. (That could be pretty brutal!)

Some of those other cards sound interesting too. I'm really looking forward to this box!

Twn2dn said:

Yeah, Ser Jorah Mormont can do the job.

It's too bad you can't Treaty any House like back in CCG. I've always thought that Targ/Stark and Winter/Burn would do well.

I agree with you Fatmouse, regarding your statement about the treaty agenda. I miss that in the LCG and hope it makes a return at some point. I know there were some treaties offered in LCG (with the South and the Isles), but I don't like how they lower the win condition to only 10 power for opponents, and it also limits one to those houses only.

Twn2dn, I agree with you that the new wolf looks to be deadly for getting rid of low strength characters, especially on Robb, but wouldn't think it'd be such a scary attachment for a Targ deck. I mean, Targ is so good at getting rid of attachments that I never worry about my opponents playing any attachment while I'm playing Targ. Has your experience been different? Or do you just not run attachment control cards in your Targ decks? Just curious.

I'm looking forward to the Stark premium expansion too. Love the new Blackfish (good job on that one, Erick). Can't wait!

ASoIaFfan said:

No, you're probably right. This will kill at least one guy when it hits play though...there's no stopping the opponent from using it immediately to kill a Street Waif. After that though, I should be able to deal with it quick enough. (Since it's unique, dragon thief doesn't hit it, but other unrestricted effects like the brothel will.) This could be more of an issue for Martell I guess, but then Martell at least has some larger characters that are less vulnerable and already gives Stark grief when it comes to Game of Cyvasse and intrigue challenges.

I guess the bottom line is that this attachment is most likely going to kill one character on the turn it enters play and then probably another 1-2 after that, unless I happen to have attachment hate in my hand or already in play. (If I have attachment hate in play, my opponent will likely just wait to remove that anti-attachment card before he or she plays the attachment though.) This attachment isn't game breaking or anything, of course; it's just solid all around and could give some houses (especially those I particularly enjoy playing ) some grief.

Oh, OK. I fully agree with you, Twn2dn. I think it will be more problematic for other houses much more so than Targ as well. A good solid card.

... another card that can kill Wenadmyr. And while I'm aware he's a PIA... repeatable save is all that stands between Greyjoy getting completely pummeled by Stark Murder... and this is repeatable murder. Folks need to remember that when facing a murder deck, you have to push into play more characters then you lose via military, murder, and if the deck is a real deck the claim 2 intrigue challenge.

Meh.

I remember this Grey wolf form Throne of Blades era and he never saw all that much play. Maybe with teh scaled back card pool - he'll be better, but even then - with Spending the Winter Stores to complete the copmboe at the flip of a Plot, he only really saw play from dedicated Stark Loyalists. Targ really won't worry about him - and you'll be flooding teh abord against Stark anyway, as bloodycelt accuartely observes, so I'm not going to lose too much sleep.

Solid card - not a game breaker. Can see why Dan wants him out of House though.

Stag Lord said:

Keep in mind that back then, more of the burn actually burned. The LCG card pool has fewer available effects that kill/discard @ 0STR than "back in the day." So I can understand why Dan wants to see him OOH in Targ, too. Targ always seems to be looking for a few more "finishers" in the LCG.

i like die by the sword in GJ...scurvy should make more of a showing w/ that in a gj deck. GJ should have some interesting control w/out having to use winter now (though they still can)

boy do i wish bara had a 2 (or even 3) cost in house war crest right now....

grey wind i think is going to be one of those attachments that looks good when building but not as much in game... he isn't burn but a targetted effect so can be saved/canceled if need be. yeah it might hit targ hard, but their low str utility characters are a lot more important if not a lot better. I like that though as it might create times when targ doesn't want to play threat from the north (~ironic that targ is using a threat fro mthe north and stark can hamper that strategy, no?)

ktom said:

Yeah, it's the "finishing blow" that I like about this guy, rather than the additional burn. At this point, Targ has plenty of burn, I think, but lacks the terminal effect on many of the effects. Threat is nice for this reason, but it also affects my characters, restricts my gold for the round, and only lasts a round. It would be nice if there were a few more effects that provided a terminal effect for variety's sake

The new wolf might be pretty interesting in a winter deck that runs the Long Winter (finally some reason to include that in-house), maybe with winds of winter and fear of winter. Too bad Bear Island can't be played in a winter deck though. Still, don't think it will see that much play... maybe in somekind of direwolf decks (at least there's a draw engine for this) with the upcoming shaggydog that can reduce the STR of attackers. I can also symphatize with wanting to run this in Targ... =)

The new event ought to give a nice boost to War -crests (GJ, Stark, Targ mainly), and neutral targeted kill should make aggressive decks more feasible.

And yea, recently (possibly due to my rush builds) scurvy has been getting into GJ builds much more around here, so the combo with target kills in GJ should be good. =)