Another attempt at a Fleet

By Lem213, in Star Wars: Armada Fleet Builds

I just put this list together, and I think it could do fairly well now that I have a couple games under my belt(none with this list though). So the Aspiration is set aside with the 2 B Wings, the NBs deploy(may change)in a backwards triangle, with the Tantive IV in the back to hand out Commands and tokens. The A wings can deploy with them or off to the sides to intercept squadrons. The plan is to fly strait at them, and then dropping the Aspiration, moving 1 sheild to whichever broadside and front that is facing the enemy ship for a double arc. The Tantive IV can give it a Neb a Maximum Firepower command, and a token to the Aspiration. The aspiration will use a Squad command, launch the B-wings to bomb away some shields or an exposed hull. Thats the general plan, let me know what you guys think! A quick question, if we get a mission that has objective ships(most wanted), can I choose a ship that isn't deployed(the Aspiration)? Thanks!

http://armadawarlords.hivelabs.solutions/view_list.php?token=198111&key=9c72b8a7babd21def9958e1cf946982e

Oh, I am also planning on going second(using the full 400), as I get one of my scenerios. But I may remove the medical team if I want to have one point to bid with.

Several things off the top of my head:

1. Raddus Says another, so if you want to drop Aspiration, he must be on a different ship

2. you cannot choose a ship that is not deployed as an objective ship for most missions, as choosing an objective ship is typically after deployment.

3. your drop ships are fairly committed to locations because of your deployment, and limits some of the benefit of Raddus.

4. If your plan is to fly at them and Raddus in at some point, what benefit do you have from Raddus? You aren't unpredictable, and moving shields will be obvious enough at deployment with enough practice.

5. SW7s on the CR90 is cheaper and offers increased flexibility with your arcs (as with a CF you basically tell your opponent to take 4 minimum)

6. Do you have flotillas?

7. you don't get second if you have more points. The person with fewer points gets to choose, so someone can look at this and make you go first, into their guns.

8a. Fleet Ambush is a trap. Either it does nothing (your opponent places throwaway ships at the back) or the get to place a nasty ship in your face and go first with it.

8b. Same with Most Wanted. your opponent gets a good number of points, regardless of what they kill.

8c. Minefields is alright, but you have to watch for fleets that include strategic.

that all being said, the fundamental principle (Ram Aspiration down their throat as Nebulons and a CR90 pick at them) is solid, and not a bad way to go.

52 minutes ago, Do I need a Username said:

Several things off the top of my head:

1. Raddus Says another, so if you want to drop Aspiration, he must be on a different ship

2. you cannot choose a ship that is not deployed as an objective ship for most missions, as choosing an objective ship is typically after deployment.

3. your drop ships are fairly committed to locations because of your deployment, and limits some of the benefit of Raddus.

4. If your plan is to fly at them and Raddus in at some point, what benefit do you have from Raddus? You aren't unpredictable, and moving shields will be obvious enough at deployment with enough practice.

5. SW7s on the CR90 is cheaper and offers increased flexibility with your arcs (as with a CF you basically tell your opponent to take 4 minimum)

6. Do you have flotillas?

7. you don't get second if you have more points. The person with fewer points gets to choose, so someone can look at this and make you go first, into their guns.

8a. Fleet Ambush is a trap. Either it does nothing (your opponent places throwaway ships at the back) or the get to place a nasty ship in your face and go first with it.

8b. Same with Most Wanted. your opponent gets a good number of points, regardless of what they kill.

8c. Minefields is alright, but you have to watch for fleets that include strategic.

that all being said, the fundamental principle (Ram Aspiration down their throat as Nebulons and a CR90 pick at them) is solid, and not a bad way to go.

fixed, thanks!

http://armadawarlords.hivelabs.solutions/view_list.php?token=198111&key=4fb97cf94d34835c79f5786a92c8dc74

I agree wholeheartedly with @Do I need a Username on almost everything but point 4. Dropping Aspiration untouched into their face with a double arc is a higher calling worthy of being built around. That said, the Nebs are poor drop ships in that they don’t like to get close enough to a target for fear of exposing their fragile side arcs with no benefit to damage. Two GR75s are somewhat hard to kill, expendable, maneuverable enough to get the job done (especially Quantum Storm,) and turn Most Wanted into a great objective. Swapping a Neb or the CR90 for them would also give you a strong bid for first to maximize Aspiration’s advantage or second for objective play. Minefields isn’t bad, but usually doesn’t do a whole lot, because it’s not hard to leave most mines undetonated. Salvage Run will yield points, prevent them from nuking down dropships at range and encourage everyone to approach the center so you can close in (though the Nebs won’t *love* it.) Just some thoughts.

25 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

I agree wholeheartedly with @Do I need a Username on almost everything but point 4. Dropping Aspiration untouched into their face with a double arc is a higher calling worthy of being built around. That said, the Nebs are poor drop ships in that they don’t like to get close enough to a target for fear of exposing their fragile side arcs with no benefit to damage. Two GR75s are somewhat hard to kill, expendable, maneuverable enough to get the job done (especially Quantum Storm,) and turn Most Wanted into a great objective. Swapping a Neb or the CR90 for them would also give you a strong bid for first to maximize Aspiration’s advantage or second for objective play. Minefields isn’t bad, but usually doesn’t do a whole lot, because it’s not hard to leave most mines undetonated. Salvage Run will yield points, prevent them from nuking down dropships at range and encourage everyone to approach the center so you can close in (though the Nebs won’t *love* it.) Just some thoughts.

So point 4 is based on the plan of dropping in the front of inverse V formation. Raddus should be used to place a ship in a position they really don't want a ship.

1 hour ago, Do I need a Username said:

So point 4 is based on the plan of dropping in the front of inverse V formation. Raddus should be used to place a ship in a position they really don't want a ship.

He stated he planned to fly in an inverse V. He didn’t necessarily say he’d be dropping it in front vs a flank. A lot of Raddus fleets deploy in a very wide inverse V so dropships can circle. More importantly, Aspiration double arced right in front of your nose in a blocking position is often right where one doesn’t want it and would go to great lengths to avoid that situation. Unless it’s a ranged ISD or Liberty, in which case an extra shot on approach can sometimes simply give them the upper hand in a brawl. Which Raddus denies them. My point isn’t that there are no bad way to fly or drop Raddus, just that this:

2 hours ago, Do I need a Username said:

If your plan is to fly at them and Raddus in at some point, what benefit do you have from Raddus? You aren't unpredictable, and moving shields will be  obvious   enough at deployment with enough practice

is not, in my opinion, true.

8 hours ago, Do I need a Username said:

So point 4 is based on the plan of dropping in the front of inverse V formation. Raddus should be used to place a ship in a position they really don't want a ship.

Oh, the plan is to move in the V formation so that Leia can actually help out, and now that the CR90 is also the flagship having it live long enough to drop the Aspiration is important. And unless I get some really lucky shots off on the front of somthing, the Aspiration probably won't drop in front, he'll most likely be on a side or rear, to maximize the B-Wings and his double arcing torpedos. I am contemplating replacing the 2 Nebs with 2 more CR90s or maybe even 2 MC30 Torpedo frigates(I'd probably drop the 2 B-Wings and the RLB, as I am doubting how usefull it will be).

Here is one without the B wings and Nebs in favor of Torpedo MC30s. I think I like it a bit more.

so yes, the RLB B-wings aren't too useful. MC30s come wit their own problems, but are more flexible than a Neb. 3 Engine Techs CR90s are not a bad way to go either, of course (Or 2 and an MC 30 if you have the points).