As it says, now he is out, well kinda, how fat are you building him, I am going for a shield upgrade, to give him 8 life, seems legit, but how much more are you gonna put on him, and... What are you running him with ?+

R4 and Heroic, probably. Seems expensive enough as it is. Might add an HLC if I have the points.

2 minutes ago, Okapi said:

R4 and Heroic, probably. Seems expensive enough as it is. Might add an HLC if I have the points.

I agree. R4 is gonna be stapled.

Don’t have him yet, but initial build ideas are him with title/lone wolf/config/R4 Astro.

Depending in the team, swapping LW for Heroic might be better. Proton Torps could be very nice with his action stacking and high initiative. Want to do some testing to figure out what tech (if any) to add in, with Primed Thrusters and the paint being the front runners.

1 minute ago, Okapi said:

R4 and Heroic, probably. Seems expensive enough as it is. Might add an HLC if I have the points.

Strongly agree. Keep it cheap, r4 for sure, might go predator so you could potentially keep the wings closed. At 72 points with pred, he clocks in very close to the 1.0 cost of the ace of legends him self with very similar functionality. Cheap and cheerful!

Black one is a steal too at 2 points and at I6. It can be used as a get out jail free card if you ended up in a kill box.

3 minutes ago, SabineKey said:

Don’t have him yet, but initial build ideas are him with title/lone wolf/config/R4 Astro.

Depending in the team, swapping LW for Heroic might be better. Proton Torps could be very nice with his action stacking and high initiative. Want to do some testing to figure out what tech (if any) to add in, with Primed Thrusters and the paint being the front runners.

Paint and protorps seen like great investments on him too.

I suppose even Elusive could be an interesting choice if you also take Pattern Analyzer. Not entirely sure about the timing here, but it's possible to tallon roll, recharge Elusive, trigger Analyzer for a focus, and then take a red target lock for a total of two stress, right? Going to be a painful follow up turn, but not many pilots can pull that kind of stunt.

43 minutes ago, Okapi said:

I suppose even Elusive could be an interesting choice if you also take Pattern Analyzer. Not entirely sure about the timing here, but it's possible to tallon roll, recharge Elusive, trigger Analyzer for a focus, and then take a red target lock for a total of two stress, right? Going to be a painful follow up turn, but not many pilots can pull that kind of stunt.

Except Nien with pattern Analyser can do it better.

He can Talon, Focus-link Barrel roll (to gain position.) Clear stress for the action, clear stress again for the TR. Take his normal action, say TL. If you stick Black one on him he can SLAM and repeat for another action and clear all the stress down.

Only Poe list I've made (alongside Tallie and 2 Green Expert RZ-2s) is:

R4 Astro, Outmaneuver, Pattern Analyzer, S-Foils

What is all the love for R4?? It only gives a blue 2 turn, thought BB or BB8 would be much better. I know it costs more, but still.

I thought about BB8, and Heroic, and shield upgrade, giving him lots of movement, and 8 life.

Just now, Mcpolle said:

What is all the love for R4?? It only gives a blue 2 turn, thought BB or BB8 would be much better. I know it costs more, but still.

I thought about BB8, and Heroic, and shield upgrade, giving him lots of movement, and 8 life.

Because he'll basically want to stress himself every turn with his ability. So having extra blue is always good. And basically makes him a more survivable 1.0 Soontir/Interceptor.

1 minute ago, Mcpolle said:

What is all the love for R4?? It only gives a blue 2 turn, thought BB or BB8 would be much better. I know it costs more, but still.

I thought about BB8, and Heroic, and shield upgrade, giving him lots of movement, and 8 life.

I think the bb8 build will be popular, too, but r4 is so cheap and gives blue hard turns which have tradionally been just shy of mandatory on a ptl ship. Given the nature of his ability, he will likely be stressed every turn and having those hard turns will make life a lot easier. With a bb8 build, I would want primed thrusters which adds an additional 8 points too.

Your build will be fun to play, I’m sure, it will just come at a different price point.

BB and R4 probably works for different playstyles. R4 Poe is a knife fighter that's probably going to 2-turn and barrel roll most turns for R4 primary attacks, while BB-8 Poe will have a sweeping zoom-and-boom playstyle, probably better with torpedoes.

2 minutes ago, Mcpolle said:

What is all the love for R4?? It only gives a blue 2 turn, thought BB or BB8 would be much better. I know it costs more, but still.

I thought about BB8, and Heroic, and shield upgrade, giving him lots of movement, and 8 life.

Another factor for me personally on top of some of what others have said is consistency. The bb units work twice a game while the R4 will always give its benefit. That’s not to say those two turns of use might not come out to be a better investment, but for initial testing, I prefer the constant.

20 hours ago, Tyhar7 said:

Except Nien with pattern Analyser can do it better.

He can Talon, Focus-link Barrel roll (to gain position.) Clear stress for the action, clear stress again for the TR. Take his normal action, say TL. If you stick Black one on him he can SLAM and repeat for another action and clear all the stress down.

I keep seeing this idea stated. Please stop

Y ou can only do one action before the check difficulty step.

Edit: I was wrong I’m sorry 😭

4 minutes ago, SpiderMana said:

I keep seeing this idea stated. Please stop

Y ou can only do one action before the check difficulty step.

One action, which can be linked into another if you have such a thing on your action bar. The main rules also state you can only do one action (after the check difficulty step). Linked actions are an exception to this. Why wouldn't the exception also apply here?

R4, Heroic, Proton Torps. Don't need more than that.

I'm liking Daredevil + BB8 and Black One if I can afford it.

40 minutes ago, Okapi said:

One action, which can be linked into another if you have such a thing on your action bar. The main rules also state you can only do one action (after the check difficulty step). Linked actions are an exception to this. Why wouldn't the exception also apply here?

Hm... I suppose Advanced Sensors does state separately that you cannot perform another action.

**** Nein is gonna be powerful with that.

1 minute ago, SpiderMana said:

Hm... I suppose Advanced Sensors does state separately that you cannot perform another action.

**** Nein is gonna be powerful with that.

It was situational at best today, if the Barrel Roll doesn't get you into Bullseye, you're rolling -1 Attack Dice thanks to the closed S-Foils. Much better to focus/boost or focus/lock without linking.

Very maneuverable, but expensive:

Poe Dameron (68)
Heroic (1)
BB Astromech (5)
Integrated S-Foils (0)
Primed Thrusters (8)

Total: 82

Pretty solid and rather cheap:

Poe Dameron (68)
Heroic (1)
R4 Astromech (2)
Integrated S-Foils (0)

Total: 71

I’m admittedly leaning towards BB-8 more than R4 just because I worry Poe will be too predictable with R4 (like Soontir was in 1.0) and too easily blockabke. With BB8 and a bid, you have twice per game supernatural Reflexes and can adjust better to the board state

4 minutes ago, Rogue3 said:

I’m admittedly leaning towards BB-8 more than R4 just because I worry Poe will be too predictable with R4 (like Soontir was in 1.0) and too easily blockabke. With BB8 and a bid, you have twice per game supernatural Reflexes and can adjust better to the board state

Poe only really works with BB Astro’s if you also take primed thrusters. Without thrusters you can’t use Poe’s ability the turn before you BB and if you don’t use his ability you might as well hold up a sign that says pre-move barrel roll incoming.

I think the general consensus will be similar to Fenn Rau, keep it cheap as his base is great.

I think my standard build for him will be; Heroic, R4, config, and Black One, for 73pts. I'll drop Black One if I need the points but it seems good for 2pts.

My fat build will look more like this; Heroic, BB-8, Primed Thrusters, config, Black One, HLC for 91pts. This is a little too fat for normal use in my opinion, but it'll be a fantastic arc dodger and I'll probably try it with a chunky Rey.