I think if you're running a 3-ship list you can afford to cut Rose in order to bring in that 3rd ship, but if you're just rejigging how you get to a 2-ship list then Rose is hard to give up. Especially in Extended when you'bve got Freelance Slicer too.
Han/Poe
I tried this list first time yesterday against Poe/Nien/Lulo and bagged the win. I ran it with EU, Title, Rose, Ray and Seasoned navigator. HLC on Poe. Title and EU won me the game. Combined with Roses ability and Rey, Han is just a beast. I even messed up on the set-up placing Han a bit too far forwards and limiting my moves so my opponent could focus all his ships on him. But then being able to boost white at PS6 even with a panicked pilot and constant stress was amazing. With all ships focusing on Han Poe was able to wreck havoc from behind. Might drop HLC on Poe for a bigger bid as it only got used once. SN never got used (not to say it wouldn't have been had I only flown better), so for extended games I'll definitely try Freelance Slicer. I'm still unsure if two ship lists can hack it in HS, but this is absolutely the one constellation I'll keep flying if so.
5 hours ago, Samurai33 said:I tried this list first time yesterday against Poe/Nien/Lulo and bagged the win. I ran it with EU, Title, Rose, Ray and Seasoned navigator. HLC on Poe. Title and EU won me the game. Combined with Roses ability and Rey, Han is just a beast. I even messed up on the set-up placing Han a bit too far forwards and limiting my moves so my opponent could focus all his ships on him. But then being able to boost white at PS6 even with a panicked pilot and constant stress was amazing. With all ships focusing on Han Poe was able to wreck havoc from behind. Might drop HLC on Poe for a bigger bid as it only got used once. SN never got used (not to say it wouldn't have been had I only flown better), so for extended games I'll definitely try Freelance Slicer. I'm still unsure if two ship lists can hack it in HS, but this is absolutely the one constellation I'll keep flying if so.
I recommend giving more time with HLC on Poe. Lining up the bullseye will start to come more frequently with more reps.
Yeah I too think HLC is good. Most of the time though I was chasing at range 1 so didn't really need it. What I'm unsure of is how much of a bid is wise to have with this list. Right now I've got 195 points and HLC (or black one title- but I really think that is useful) is the upgrade I'm most willing to sacrifice.
I'm off to fly this for a few games tonight, I'll report back on how badly I suck with BB-8 Poe
Poe Dameron (68)
Trick Shot (1)
BB-8 (8)
Integrated S-Foils (0)
Ferrosphere Paint (6)
Black One (2)
Hardpoint: Cannon (0)
Heavy Laser Cannon (4)
Han Solo (Resistance) (76)
Trick Shot (1)
Rose Tico (9)
C-3PO (Resistance) (6)
Rey (14)
Rey's Millennium Falcon (5)
Total: 200
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Edited by Dreadai10 minutes ago, Dreadai said:I'm off to fly this for a few games tonight, I'll report back on how badly I suck with BB-8 Poe
Poe Dameron (68)
Trick Shot (1)
BB-8 (8)
Integrated S-Foils (0)
Ferrosphere Paint (6)
Black One (2)
Hardpoint: Cannon (0)
Heavy Laser Cannon (4)Han Solo (Resistance) (76)
Trick Shot (1)
Rose Tico (9)
C-3PO (Resistance) (6)
Rey (14)
Rey's Millennium Falcon (5)Total: 200
Oh no! Did you listen to that Mynock episode where that Poe was suggested? I agree only with the HLC suggestion, but...good luck!
53 minutes ago, Samurai33 said:Yeah I too think HLC is good. Most of the time though I was chasing at range 1 so didn't really need it. What I'm unsure of is how much of a bid is wise to have with this list. Right now I've got 195 points and HLC (or black one title- but I really think that is useful) is the upgrade I'm most willing to sacrifice.
I really don't think the list needs a bid. Two I6 should be able to punish other I6's with enough practice/planning.
5 minutes ago, gennataos said:Oh no! Did you listen to that Mynock episode where that Poe was suggested? I agree only with the HLC suggestion, but...good luck!
I figured I'd give it a try
On 12/22/2018 at 11:19 AM, shakaumruk said:my han-poe list:
Scavenged YT-1300 Light Freighter - •Han Solo - 112
•Han Solo - Jaded Smuggler (76)
Trick Shot (1)
Freelance Slicer (3)
•Rose Tico (9)
Shield Upgrade (4)
•Rey’s Millennium Falcon (5)
•Rey (14)T-70 X-wing - •Poe Dameron - 83
•Poe Dameron - Trigger-Happy Flyboy (68)
Heroic (1)
R4 Astromech (2)
Shield Upgrade (6)
• Black One (2)
Integrated S-foils (Closed) (0)
Heavy Laser Cannon (4)Total: 195/200
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i dont sure to keep black one title.
prefer heavy laser cannon+shield instead protonic, more resistence on poe.
and i dont know is better keep freelance slicer or put chebecca or seasoned navigator...
seasoned is maybe better, but modify the speed to stress falcon in most time , let me confused.
made my tournament;
lose 1 game of 3 .. finih 4th of 12th.
consideration:
navigator: really strong on han, make him more evasive
trickshot : useless, and can keep out.
HLC: useless, if only one ship have it; strong on 2-3 ship instead, keep out it
l'ulo: is strong a-wing but need to stress it ; hfor this i use HLC point to put on it squad leader.....
regards
Flew 2 games of Han (Rey/Rose/C3PO/Trickshot) with the Leintz Poe.
My learnings - I'm not sure about C3PO - I was flying badly - I kept leaving Poe stressed, which switched off BB-8 and moving him before Han so removing the coordinate. Needs more practice!
HLC on Poe is legit good ... having reposition and the option to pre-move reposition if necessary is cool. I did get the dream trickshot HLC off at one point, only for my opponent to take a single damage! The BB8 Poe needs a lot of work to get it firing properly.
I think that Han/Rey gunner is the meat of the list. Rose is a great addition because of the free action economy she grants. I'm thinking about switching Poe about to make him cheaper, and losing C-3PO so that I can make Han even fatter with Engine upgrade. Something like this.
Poe Dameron (68)
Trick Shot (1)
R4 Astromech (2)
Integrated S-Foils (0)
Ferrosphere Paint (6)
Black One (2)
Hardpoint: Cannon (0)
Heavy Laser Cannon (4)
Han Solo (Resistance) (76)
Trick Shot (1)
Rose Tico (9)
Rey (14)
Engine Upgrade (9)
Rey's Millennium Falcon (5)
Total: 197
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Even here, I think Poe might benefit from either Predator, or Lone Wolf with the excess points, though a 3 point bid at 6 is nice
Edited by Dreadai2 hours ago, Dreadai said:Flew 2 games of Han (Rey/Rose/C3PO/Trickshot) with the Leintz Poe.
My learnings - I'm not sure about C3PO - I was flying badly - I kept leaving Poe stressed, which switched off BB-8 and moving him before Han so removing the coordinate. Needs more practice!
HLC on Poe is legit good ... having reposition and the option to pre-move reposition if necessary is cool. I did get the dream trickshot HLC off at one point, only for my opponent to take a single damage! The BB8 Poe needs a lot of work to get it firing properly.
I think that Han/Rey gunner is the meat of the list. Rose is a great addition because of the free action economy she grants. I'm thinking about switching Poe about to make him cheaper, and losing C-3PO so that I can make Han even fatter with Engine upgrade. Something like this.
Poe Dameron (68)
Trick Shot (1)
R4 Astromech (2)
Integrated S-Foils (0)
Ferrosphere Paint (6)
Black One (2)
Hardpoint: Cannon (0)
Heavy Laser Cannon (4)Han Solo (Resistance) (76)
Trick Shot (1)
Rose Tico (9)
Rey (14)
Engine Upgrade (9)
Rey's Millennium Falcon (5)Total: 197
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Even here, I think Poe might benefit from either Predator, or Lone Wolf with the excess points, though a 3 point bid at 6 is nice
I think that's the dream Resistance Han build, maybe with Seasoned Navigator and just dial in 2-hards all day. That does leave a lot of work for Han to do before he dies to equal his points, though.
What'd you think of Ferrosphere Paint? I've tried it and felt very "meh" about it.
54 minutes ago, gennataos said:What'd you think of Ferrosphere Paint? I've tried it and felt very "meh" about it.
It worked well in one game as it was a Dutch torpedo list so that was unable to k-turn. The other game it was irrelevant as the list was focus based.
The thing with Ferrosphere Paint is that in Hyperspace Tie Swarm "should" make a comeback and also Proton Torps are gonna be going up, so is Ferrosphere Paint gonna be worth it at 6 points when it won't help in as many matches? Not sure. Hurts other Poe's and any ship that likes to TL. Its a meta call type of card.
2 minutes ago, Quack Shot said:The thing with Ferrosphere Paint is that in Hyperspace Tie Swarm "should" make a comeback and also Proton Torps are gonna be going up, so is Ferrosphere Paint gonna be worth it at 6 points when it won't help in as many matches? Not sure. Hurts other Poe's and any ship that likes to TL. Its a meta call type of card.
Yeah, seems very much like a "tech against alpha" card, which I don't think will be very prevalent in Hyperspace.
The weird thing about it is that you often won’t know how effective it’s been because it won’t ever deal a stress, but has made your opponent spend his entire game working around the fact that his locks will stress his ships. Unless you have a post game debriefing you might not know.
8 minutes ago, Dreadai said:The weird thing about it is that you often won’t know how effective it’s been because it won’t ever deal a stress, but has made your opponent spend his entire game working around the fact that his locks will stress his ships. Unless you have a post game debriefing you might not know.
Yeah, it can have the same sort of impact the Black One title did in 1.0. People usually only got "gotcha"-ed once by TLing Poe, then they just wouldn't. It seems like it's entirely meta-dependent. Like, if I flew Poe in Extended tomorrow, I'd probably think really hard about adding it.
When I was looking for points to cut from Poe I looked at BB8 first because he is hard. Maybe keeping on with the droid but dropping ferrosphere would be an option.
Poe Dameron (68)
Predator (2)
R4 Astromech (2)
Integrated S-Foils (0)
Primed Thrusters (10)
Black One (2)
Hardpoint: Cannon (0)
Han Solo (Resistance) (76)
Trick Shot (2)
Rose Tico (9)
Freelance Slicer (3)
Rey (14)
Shield Upgrade (4)
Rey’s Millennium Falcon (5)
Total: 197
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What about this?
Had a fun 3 rounds with Han/Poe at the weekend, so fun to fly and 2 very complimentary ships. Han just tends to give away at least half points in every game, which can be a challenge.
HLC Poe is definitely my favourite version, with R4 because I don't think I'm good enough to fly BB8 well.
In London you seem to need at least a 12 point bid to move last though, so I like to bring it in around 188 points.
Edited by ayedubbleyooHan/Poe
(71) Han Solo [Scavenged YT-1300]
(4) Trick Shot
(6) Korr Sella
(9) Rose Tico
(14) Rey
(5) Rey's Millennium Falcon
(4) Shield Upgrade
Points: 113
(68) Poe Dameron [T-70 X-wing]
(0) Integrated S-foils
(2) Black One
(2) R4 Astromech
(5) Lone Wolf
(4) Heavy Laser Cannon
Points: 81
Total points: 194
Korr is really going to help Han out a lot. So this is my new version.