5 minutes ago, Jedu said:

Oh, OK, I see - the SF Gunner is a "must have" in order to bump primary arc to 3 red dice. And that makes 55 points. That's fair.

Pretty much. It’s still proportional cheaper than it was before, but without Light-Weight Frame, that’s probably for the best.

4 minutes ago, Cuz05 said:

Well, I think we can safely say that Rebel A Wings have a decent price drop/ability bump in their future.

Surprised by the price on T70s anyone? Seem pretty cheap to me.

I haven’t really done a deep dive into all the pilots, but Poe seemed surprisingly cheap to me.

1 minute ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Don't forget, the RZ2's dial is also better and it has a Tech slot, which is vastly superior to a Modification slot!

At this point, I have to believe either FFG has a huge Anti-Rebel sentiment in 2.0, or they are grossly incompetent, or they are just trying to sell lots of the "New Hotness" with powercreep. I'm not sure which is worse...

This has got to coincide with an A-Wing price drop or even addition of talent slot. I mean... right??

Good to see three T-70 aces, or four generics, remains viable!

7 minutes ago, Cuz05 said:

Well, I think we can safely say that Rebel A Wings have a decent price drop/ability bump in their future.

Surprised by the price on T70s anyone? Seem pretty cheap to me.

Poe is right where I thought he'd be on par with Fenn Rau. With him almost auto-include with title/BB-8 pushing him to 78 is still a very nice sweet spot for his chassis. I am pleasantly surprised at Rey's cost even with the reduction to shields etc. but I'm not going to complain. But those RZ-2 prices are telling me put the 4 on the table with Poe and go... FAST.

29 minutes ago, Innese said:

Generic Tech upgrades are still missing.

They're up now, if they weren't half an hour ago.

Oh gosh. Recoil, in the Silencer. If stressed, his whole front arc counts as bullseye at R1. And he has both Torps and Missile slots..... running both Prockets and APTs can't be wrong can it?

Rey at 80 (Reyty) is kinda a joke. Guess we have our faction defining ship and list 😑

10 minutes ago, kogtim said:

Petty Officer Thanison taking up 2 crew slots seems odd. Must be necessary for balance, but it doesn't make much thematic sense that a single person that isn't a faction leader who presumably has a big entourage would take up 2 slots.

I didn't think his card had two crew slot symbols on it?

1 minute ago, SpiderMana said:

I didn't think his card had two crew slot symbols on it?

It doesn't in the spoiler images.

Just now, Cuz05 said:

It doesn't in the spoiler images.

I saw it in an unboxing video last night. Don't have time to check right now, but I didn't notice the double slot. Maybe I just missed it, though.

Wait, am I blind? Where are the point costs for generic Tech upgrades? How much is Optics?

2 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Wait, am I blind? Where are the point costs for generic Tech upgrades? How much is Optics?

Generic upgrade costs

https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/06/91/0691980a-ddce-4f92-89cf-9d74ae36c381/onlinepoints_genericupgrades-wave2.pdf

18 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Don't forget, the RZ2's dial is also better and it has a Tech slot, which is vastly superior to a Modification slot!

At this point, I have to believe either FFG has a huge Anti-Rebel sentiment in 2.0, or they are grossly incompetent, or they are just trying to sell lots of the "New Hotness" with powercreep. I'm not sure which is worse...

Don't forget that the Mouse might be getting their thumbs in this pie and want more "prominence" for the sequel era stuff.

That Hyperspace legal is ridiculous. Basically the conversion kits were, without warning, just a moneygrab from veterans. Aaaand I am out until we can fly actually interesting lists in tournaments.

Upsilons have the fabled 3 crew and dropped down slightly in cost

14 minutes ago, SpiderMana said:

I didn't think his card had two crew slot symbols on it?

Presumably just a typo in the point cost list, probably because they just used like the Imperial template and he ended up where Palp was or something.

For instance, BB-Unit is also limited according to the points document, but I think the card is generic.

I think these are just artifacts of the template used in creating the points documents, and will likely all be fixed.

Hype for Hyperspace!

Rey's Falcon title is missing

1 minute ago, Kaiju said:

That Hyperspace legal is ridiculous. Basically the conversion kits were, without warning, just a moneygrab from veterans. Aaaand I am out until we can fly actually interesting lists in tournaments.

Yea, I don't see how the Hyperspace lists are different from the 2.0 Legal stuff? I can't even fly a U-Wing, because despite owning several U-Wings and buying the conversion kits, only the Saw's Renegades U-Wings appear to be legal, and I didn't buy that pack.

Oh well, as long as Extended stays as supported as Hyperspace, I guess it's not a terrible issue. But if Hyperspace becomes the norm, then yea, the majority of pilots in the conversion kits won't be usable for awhile.

30 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Ugh, while you need the Gunner... still a good deal compared to a T65...
Factor in the RZ2's pricing and even the fact that Rey's Falcon is a whopping 12pts cheaper than the Rebel analog (while it has less shields, it's innate Force Points can quickly make up that difference)...


Rebels look more crappy than ever... 🤣 Guess we know the Devs' least favorite faction.

I suspect that these prices are in line with what we are expecting the rebalanced prices to be at in January. The old falcon, along with most other large base ships, will see a price drop.

Just now, HolySorcerer said:

I suspect that these prices are in line with what we are expecting the rebalanced prices to be at in January. The old falcon, along with most other large base ships, will see a price drop.

True, I suppose this is a harbinger of some pretty drastic points decreases for Rebels come January. Still, that feels a long way away, especially with tournaments between now and then.

The optimist in me says this is great, because this has to mean a points reduction coming for Rebels, and A-Wings are going to be super playable once they become TIE Fighter cheap. And if I can include Han as part of a three ship list with everyone actually packing some upgrades, so much the better.

The cynic in me says that won't happen and FFG just want me to buy Resistance ships now that they're not part of the faction I main and I don't need to buy T-70s for Integrated Astromech or to run Poe with Biggs.

Optimist is winning out for now, but **** this is going to be a tough month for Jake Farrell......

Actually as far as rebels go, haven’t had time to look through the other factions, the Falcon is hyperspace legal, as well as some choice crew. So it seems some conversion kit material is legal, just not all of it.

gut feeling:

Everything but Poe, the I 5 A-wings, and Rey (comically undercosted) is overcosted

as much as I love the idea of the resistance bombers, I can get much better in other factions

Remember, Edon is 69 points base. Compare:

1 minute ago, ficklegreendice said:

gut feeling:

Everything but Poe , the I 5 A-wings, and Rey (comically undercosted) is overcosted

Where are you coming down on Poe?

To me, he's bang on where I expected him to be, especially when you factor in the cost of BB-8 for the pre-movement, PTL stress clearing shenanigans. I expected that combo to be more expensive than Supernatural Luke.

He's maybe a shade undercosted at that, I might have expected 70 points. Though that might just be comparing him with the overcosted E-Wings.

Agreed on Rey.

Kinda feels like she isn't paying anywhere near the Force tax that Vader and Grand Inqy are.