And well done Doc!

It seems clear the scum have not ID’d the doc, else he would be dead or roleblocked. Good work! Keep your head down.

Things are looking very positive for town.

i think scum was jailed night one that's why they killed the jailkeeper

i was not jailed

1 hour ago, Bertie Wooster said:

@Matt3412 Voting so quickly?

After the end of day where ovi almost put us in a situation of no vote and how he reacted and hammered it seemed very scummy to me... obviously he was attacked in the night so now im confused

Well I'm still town reading matt/LTD/bertie.

Ovi would appear town after last night.

Leaving LP/Caldias/Gnip to be sorted...

Sorry GSIP...

Man if I die two days in a row, it'll be a new record.

Seriously though, given that I am, technically, a new player just joined today, you don't really have a record of me to get vibes from.

Matt, how could scum NK the jailer if they were jailed? That assumes that one member was jailed, the jailer revealed his ID, and that jailed scum member then transmitted that to his partner, who then killed the jailer. While that is not inconceivable, I don't think Mad would have done that unless he absolutely trusted the jailed person. Who could he absolutely trust N1? Presumably, LTD, but I can't see him revealing his ID to him, especially since he would want to verify the prisoner's alignment in case he ought to kill him.

2 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Matt, how could scum NK the jailer if they were jailed? That assumes that one member was jailed, the jailer revealed his ID, and that jailed scum member then transmitted that to his partner, who then killed the jailer. While that is not inconceivable, I don't think Mad would have done that unless he absolutely trusted the jailed person. Who could he absolutely trust N1? Presumably, LTD, but I can't see him revealing his ID to him, especially since he would want to verify the prisoner's alignment in case he ought to kill him.

Can help you here, as a rule scum are NOT allowed to communicate if jailed.

55 minutes ago, Matt3412 said:

After the end of day where ovi almost put us in a situation of no vote and how he reacted and hammered it seemed very scummy to me... obviously he was attacked in the night so now im confused

To be fair, ovi was more or less spot on. I was hoping that the Cal-me thing would more or less blow over, and since I hadn't read Cal as particularly scummy, I wasn't really keen to vote him (and thereby reveal my own alignment). Additional factors were that I was a bit lost in the game due to the random occurrences (and thus really didn't know what to do or how to go about getting a decent read) and a bit detached due to the condemning Jabba reactions, which I maintain - though I obviously couldn't have stated whilst a suspect - oughtn't have been made.

I was sincere on the Bertie post, though. His rapid voting and unvoting, as well as quick 180s with regard to taking our time and then rushing to vote, are suspicious to me, and the only thing that caught my eye in the brief reread other than LTD's similar 180 on time. I know this contradicts my assertion that his suggestion makes him town, which is why I am hesitant to give it voice again, but it is nagging me.

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2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

you can speak normally now btw

Oh thank God

1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:

Can help you here, as a rule scum are NOT allowed to communicate if jailed.

Are scum allowed to communicate at night if they are not jailed? You mentioned daychat before; is there a nightchat too?

And if scum don't have a nightchat, how do they agree on who to kill at night? How do they communicate their kills to you?

7 minutes ago, Bertie Wooster said:

Are scum allowed to communicate at night if they are not jailed? You mentioned daychat before; is there a nightchat too?

And if scum don't have a nightchat, how do they agree on who to kill at night? How do they communicate their kills to you?

day/night yes

Matt unvoted.

And it’s already December 7... a day that will live (in) infamy!

Are we in a Doctor Who episode now?

1 minute ago, LTD said:

And it’s already December 7... a day that will live (in) infamy!

Pearl Harbour?

From my perspective (and Imperial Japan’s) Pearl Harbour happened December 8th.

58 minutes ago, LTD said:

From my perspective (and Imperial Japan’s) Pearl Harbour happened December 8th.

Yeah but from Hawaii’s it was December 7th.

Mafia Plug

2 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

G00d m0rn1ng 3v3ry0n3!

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N0t3: 1n Sp4n1sh th3 "y" 1s n0t 4 v0w3l s0 f0rg1v3 m3 1f 1 _s3 1t.

I'm curious, how did you realize GNIP was arsonist?

And why do you have to type with the weird symbols? I think I missed something.

7 minutes ago, Bertie Wooster said:

I'm curious, how did you realize GNIP was arsonist?

And why do you have to type with the weird symbols? I think I missed something.

ovi ate the rotten fruit last night

Sorry I missed the hammer. Thought I had more time (and I should have pre-announced as I previously have when I think I’m going to be out of action - sorry). I would have been there in the pinch to favour a GNIP lynch over no lynch but freely admit that I read him as Town throughout so it would have been a vote against my own inclination - phew? I guess? ... So... welcome back GNIP! Will try and do this better against/with you this time!

I am suspicious of @Bertie Wooster who is posting the kind of posts you post if you might be Scum and want to keep things ticking along. But before you even say it Bertie - yes! Mine too fall afoul of that standard in some instances , but all I can do is call the ball based on what I do know ( I’m Town) and don’t know (who you might be). I’m not voting BW yet but I am flagging it and will start examining this approach accordingly.

4 minutes ago, Bertie Wooster said:

I'm curious, how did you realize GNIP was arsonist?

And why do you have to type with the weird symbols? I think I missed something.

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On 12/5/2018 at 2:06 PM, ovinomanc3r said:

So Ghost, being town, would lie even not knowing what Cal is if Cal is scum.

And considering scum wanted to be sure for us to not know if Ghost was lying there is a thing there.

The more I think on it the more I see the chance of scum trying to mislead us killing Jabba. But Cal and Ghost, both, don't seem too inclined to vote each other what would be a logic move. If I am told that amongst Pod and me there is a scum I would vote Pod without doubt.

I am also thinking on the arsonist which would try to avoid to lynch a primed one if that's possible. And would also trigger the lie detector.

Also considering again the chsnces of the scum bluff (I think at the same time I type). Scum didn't know the doc before last night. Jabbas was a likely target for him to be protected and a risky shot for scum. If both were town, the bluff was a good move but really risky to completely fail showing the following day with three cleaned town. That's valid if one of them is the arsonist as scum don't know. A safest move would be to kill Cal or Ghost. That way if both are town only one is cleared (the other is dead), and if one is the arsonist or he will be lynched (in case of killing the town) or the other is not necessarily cleared (in case of killing the arsonist) as he could be still be scum. But if one of them (or both) is scum then killing the town is just a way to kill the scum mate so better to try to kill Jabba (the known town) and hope for a missed 50/50 shot. Even if they fail they keep the 50/50 shot. Given that I am pretty sure Ghost and/or Cal is scum.

Both avoiding the other could mean

a) one is the arsonist and primed the other so don't want to push until necessary and also know he is done as soon as it is know the other is town (it is scum but the arsonist doesn't know).

b) one is the traitor and know the other is scum.

In both cases the genuine scum take advantage from the lack of pressure from the other as he thinks he is the trapped one and if that dilemma is not resolved today he will fight another day.

These are my thoughts thus far.

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