Ever since they announced 2nd edition I have been thinking about how FFG could expand the original 2 factions in terms of new ships based on existing sources. The Empire still has the Tie Brute and perhaps a couple ships they can mine from Legends but sadly I can't say the same for Rebels. Apart from the R-41 Starchaser and the YT-2000, I'm hard pressed to find another ship that can be added to the Rebel roster, or at the very least any that excite me. The Rebel well seems to have run dry.

Having said that there is hope on the horizon, in form of The Mandalorian and the recently announced Cassian Andor series. It will be a while until we see anything from the latter but I am interested in the Favreau series as a new source of ships. Granted it will be New Republic ships rather than Rebellion era ones but considering that the faction already has Legends NR ships like the E-wing and K-wing I highly doubt this will be an issue. Of course this is with the assumption that the series will delve into the New Republic, which I have reasons to believe they would. If so I hope they take the opportunity to introduce new ships in the show.

So what do guys think? Can we expect canon New Republic ships to be added to the Rebel roster in the near future? Or do you think there's still a some life left in Legends?

Just now, Wraithdt said:

R-41 Starchaser

This and the R-60 T-Wing if ever added would probably end up multifaction. Interestingly, while the Rebels used them, free agents and Outer Rim militias did more often (IE Scum...)

3 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

This and the R-60 T-Wing if ever added would probably end up multifaction. Interestingly, while the Rebels used them, free agents and Outer Rim militias did more often (IE Scum...)

I don't know why but I don't like the idea of the T-wing. Something about it being a failed replacement to the A-wing and being more popular among pirates rubs me the wrong way, but I do accept the possibility of it.

7 minutes ago, Wraithdt said:

I don't know why but I don't like the idea of the T-wing. Something about it being a failed replacement to the A-wing and being more popular among pirates rubs me the wrong way, but I do accept the possibility of it.

Can't say I blame you. It is really overpriced for being barely able to perform its role. When it can fly at all.

The T-Wing is such a good example of bad expanded universe writing. Because as an idea, it's good.

But of course it couldn't be better than the A-Wing, which actually existed, unlike anything in the EU.

So they had to make it the worst thing ever.

32 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

This and the R-60 T-Wing if ever added would probably end up multifaction. Interestingly, while the Rebels used them, free agents and Outer Rim militias did more often (IE Scum...)

One FFG give the T-Wing to the Rebels, we will have ATATs in the game!

8 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

The T-Wing is such a good example of bad expanded universe writing. Because as an idea, it's good.

But of course it couldn't be better than the A-Wing, which actually existed, unlike anything in the EU.

So they had to make it the worst thing ever.

Both the R-41 and the R-60 being ear marked as Hoersch-Kessel designs doesn't really help them in universe. A fair chunk of Hoersch-Kessel production went to the Separatists during the Clone Wars (allot of the CIS capital ship design were Hoersch-Kessel designs while the Republic was centered around Kuat Drive Yards's and its Rothana Heavy Engineering subsidiary's ships and ground vehicles).

1 hour ago, Hiemfire said:

Both the R-41 and the R-60 being ear marked as Hoersch-Kessel designs doesn't really help them in universe. A fair chunk of Hoersch-Kessel production went to the Separatists during the Clone Wars (allot of the CIS capital ship design were Hoersch-Kessel designs while the Republic was centered around Kuat Drive Yards's and its Rothana Heavy Engineering subsidiary's ships and ground vehicles).

And yet bizarrely the R-60 looks exactly like an Incom design.

3 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

And yet bizarrely the R-60 looks exactly like an Incom design.

Sort of. Main hull is very similar to the Z-95 and T-65. The engine and weapon placement break dramatically from Incom's addiction to wing root mounted propulsion and wing tip mounted weapons (a really stupid way to set up weapons and engines in my opinion, especially for space craft that need to be maneuverable and still hit their target). I also don't recall an Incom design that has canted wings that don't flap...

30 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

Sort of. Main hull is very similar to the Z-95 and T-65. The engine and weapon placement break dramatically from Incom's addiction to wing root mounted propulsion and wing tip mounted weapons (a really stupid way to set up weapons and engines in my opinion, especially for space craft that need to be maneuverable and still hit their target). I also don't recall an Incom design that has canted wings that don't flap...

The Z-95, but that was also a Subpro design, so your point very, very technically stands.

4 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

The Z-95, but that was also a Subpro design, so your point very, very technically stands.

Z-95 doesn't have canted wings.

Just now, Hiemfire said:

Z-95 doesn't have canted wings.

Well, depending on the iteration... But fair enough.

1 minute ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Well, depending on the iteration... But fair enough.

The only Z-95 I'm aware of that had canted wings of any sort was Booster Terrik's modified one, and that was a set of X-Wing S-Foils he'd added to his fighter..

1 minute ago, Hiemfire said:

The only Z-95 I'm aware of that had canted wings of any sort was Booster Terrik's modified one, and that was a set of X-Wing S-Foils he'd added to his fighter..

One way or another I'll concede the point to you. But here's a question for you.

Do you think the HWK-290 is more Incom than it is Corellian?

1 minute ago, Captain Lackwit said:

One way or another I'll concede the point to you. But here's a question for you.

Do you think the HWK-290 is more Incom than it is Corellian?

You'd have to scale the nose down a heck of allot for it to look like a T-65 or Z-95 front end. What makes you think they were involved in the design?

22 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

You'd have to scale the nose down a heck of allot for it to look like a T-65 or Z-95 front end. What makes you think they were involved in the design?

He doesn’t. He’s asking if it looks like it SHOULD have been. It’s been commented on before that the hwk has no Corellian design elements but does look similar to incom’s aesthetic, yet bizarrely it is identified as corellian. So he’s asking if you agree with that.

6 minutes ago, Forgottenlore said:

He doesn’t. He’s asking if it looks like it SHOULD have been. It’s been commented on before that the hwk has no Corellian design elements but does look similar to incom’s aesthetic, yet bizarrely it is identified as corellian. So he’s asking if you agree with that.

Aye!

31 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

You'd have to scale the nose down a heck of allot for it to look like a T-65 or Z-95 front end. What makes you think they were involved in the design?

Distinct letter shape (K), hard angles, tapering fuselage, exposed greebles on the fuselage that's very, very common/telltale of Incom... It's erroneously identified as Corellian, but shares absolutely no similarity to CEC designs.

I wouldn't call the YV series Corellian either, but you could compare the HWK to that.

1 minute ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Distinct letter shape (K), hard angles, tapering fuselage, exposed greebles on the fuselage that's very, very common/telltale of Incom

Koensayr...

As you pointed out, the YT Series wasn't the only series of ship put out by CEC. Yv , Yu, Yx, and VCX are all CEC design series. Corellian Engineering Corporation, at least in Legends, was friggin huge, and to assume they only had a single design theme and a single aesthetic view operating under their umbrella is as about as naïve as saying everyone on Earth loves Bratwurst...

1 minute ago, Hiemfire said:

Koensayr...

As you pointed out, the YT Series wasn't the only series of ship put out by CEC. Yv , Yu, Yx, and VCX are all CEC design series. Corellian Engineering Corporation, at least in Legends, was friggin huge, and to assume they only had a single design theme and a single aesthetic view operating under their umbrella is as about as naïve as saying everyone on Earth loves Bratwurst...

A long time ago I'd considered Koensayr as a possible manufacturer.

Thing is about legends CEC, is... Well that's just it. All CEC stuff we see in the movies DOES have a particular design aesthetic they're known for. In Legends it was as inconsistent as the rest of the EU. It's silly. It's also why I really can't see anybody but Koensayr or Incom as the makers of the HWK-290.

1 minute ago, Captain Lackwit said:

A long time ago I'd considered Koensayr as a possible manufacturer.

Thing is about legends CEC, is... Well that's just it. All CEC stuff we see in the movies DOES have a particular design aesthetic they're known for. In Legends it was as inconsistent as the rest of the EU. It's silly. It's also why I really can't see anybody but Koensayr or Incom as the makers of the HWK-290.

And yet you already brought up the counter point of the YV series Freighters... It fits that aesthetic. A company being willing to provide a diverse product base to a broad consumer base is a good thing. Don't loose sleep over it. You might wake up the this being Canonized. :

15 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

And yet you already brought up the counter point of the YV series Freighters... It fits that aesthetic. A company being willing to provide a diverse product base to a broad consumer base is a good thing. Don't loose sleep over it. You might wake up the this being Canonized. :

Oh I'd love to see that, I love that one in particular.

Just hate the Hound's Tooth.

10 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Oh I'd love to see that, I love that one in particular.

Just hate the Hound's Tooth.

Same series...

1 minute ago, Hiemfire said:

Same series...

I knooow I knoooow.

51 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

and  to assume they only had a single design theme and a single aesth  etic view ope  rating under their umbr  ell  a

If your talking about realism, yeah. But it makes a lot of sense when you’re developing a fictional world and need to provide readers/viewers that have no cultural grounding in the world points of reference. As much as we make fun of it, that’s why sci-fi is full of mono-climate planets, 2 dimensional alien societies, and so on.

1 minute ago, Forgottenlore said:

If your talking about realism, yeah. But it makes a lot of sense when you’re developing a fictional world and need to provide readers/viewers that have no cultural grounding in the world points of reference. As much as we make fun of it, that’s why sci-fi is full of mono-climate planets, 2 dimensional alien societies, and so on.

Bingo! That's also why we can tell a Sienar or Kuat design a mile away!