Another thread caused me to look up the Raider corvette on wookieepedia and I found this

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The corvette class was originally created by Fantasy Flight Gamesto fill a gap in their Star Wars: X-Wing Miniatures Game, which is now classified as legends.

I had not heard before that the entire game is considered legends (though it makes a bit of sense). Has some implications for what can be included in the game in the future.

6 minutes ago, Forgottenlore said:

Another thread caused me to look up the Raider corvette on wookieepedia and I found this

I had not heard before that the entire game is considered legends (though it makes a bit of sense). Has some implications for what can be included in the game in the future.

I'd be surprised if the game (1.0 or 2.0) was considered Canon at all. Re: Scyk, Kimogila, K-Wing, etc...

I don't think it's an official thing. It's basically just the Wookieepedia admins not really caring anymore.

Legends and first edition are both closed loops that don't contradict each other so I think they said XWM content may as well go into Legends articles.

It only really affects things like there being an article for each of the pilots FFG made up, or the artwork being used on relevant existing articles.

Wook admins never really know what they're talking about.

However, 2.0 has been PRETTY careful to only really use as much canon content as possible... But there's beloved EU characters that get through. And have, since Disney's takeover.

The Raider was developed for the game (well, games... Armada has it too)... and then was canonized with the Battlefront 2 campaign and novel.

My point is that if the game as a whole is considered legends, then there is less impediment to releasing old legends designs. Sure, they are going to prioritize new stuff that happens to be canon, but if they game itself is considered legends then there is no concern that adding a legends character or ship to the game canonized it. When the raider was first created, there was an assumption, and a lot of talk, about how it being in the game made it canon because it was after the buyout, but this indicates that isn’t the case.

That decision feels like something that was done for organizational purposes on the wiki. It's not like this game is contributing to the lore of the series, just kinda cherry picking from it for game options. X-wing has been bending the timeline and of course including non canon characters and ships for awhile, so something like this really shouldn't have any impact on the game.

that last bit, about the legends refers to the corvette class, not the game. the corvette class is considered legends material.

29 minutes ago, nikk whyte said:

that last bit, about the legends refers to the corvette class, not the game. the corvette class is considered legends material.

Nope. It was re-introduced by the Thrawn novel.

I’m with others who say that the Legends label may just purely be for organizational purposes. The game as a whole is neither Canon or Legends as it contributes no lore nor narrative but it does contain material from both continuity.

The Raider corvette though, that’s canon via Battlefront II. Whichever the text is referring to it is just simply misleading.

7 hours ago, Kehl_Aecea said:

The Raider was developed for the game (well, games... Armada has it too)... and then was canonized with the Battlefront 2 campaign and novel.

Also the Thrawn novel.

the ARC-170 expansion from 1.0 got used in the ARc's canon article as evidence the rebellion flew them during the GCW.

i don't think wookieepedia has an official policy for Xwing, and whether it gets classified as canon or legends thus ends up based mostly on who is writing the article.

Are current (aka canon) storytellers bound by content included in FFG’s games? No.

Can they use this material (for example, the Raider) for inspiration? Yes.

Thats really all it means to say FFG games are “Legends.”

For that matter, that’s what it means when ANYTHING is classified as Legends.

X-Wing is Legends.

X-Wing Second Edition is not.

3 hours ago, WAC47 said:

Are current (aka canon) storytellers bound by content included in FFG’s games? No.

Which is NOT what this board was saying (about the raider) when the raider came out. We were told at the time of the buyout that anything that came out after the “legends split” was canon, and people took that to mean FFGs creation of the raider made it canon then and there. I had not seen anything official since that suggested otherwise, though I have seen fans assume otherwise. There is always talk about whether FFG even CAN reintroduce old legends material anymore, because doing so would re-canonize it. Now, maybe I missed something, but if that article is correct (and people could be right, it may well not be, it might just be wookieepedia applying labels), but if it is correct, that changes all those conversations. If the game itself is considered legends, then there really isn’t any impediment to FFG adding the TIE Avenger, or Mara Jade, or the Wild Card, or Skipray Blastboats. Sure, they are still going to prioritize new, canon stuff, but Disney “shouldn’t” have a problem with a legends source doing stuff with legends material.

The game isn't exactly a source of lore, classifying it as legends or canon seems a bit odd to me. It does (even in 2nd ed.) draw from both sources of material, though.

23 hours ago, SOTL said:

X-Wing is Legends.

X-Wing Second Edition is not.

X-Wing Second Edition still has a lot of ships and characters from Legends.

You mean it's not LFL Canon that hundreds of thousands of times three Jumpmasters have ambushed and destroyed Dash Rendar's Outrider ??!!??!

Now I don't know what to believe......

On 11/19/2018 at 5:18 AM, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

You mean it's not LFL Canon that hundreds of thousands of times three Jumpmasters have ambushed and destroyed Dash Rendar's Outrider ??!!??!

Now I don't know what to believe......

Don't forget the Great Mario Space Race of ABY23

While video games have mostly been considered canon since the creation of Legends (with notable exceptions), I'm glad that they didn't say the same about tabletop games. While I enjoy a lot of the stories that have come out of the SW RPG (from the books, not player's custom games, of course) and IA, making them stay restricted into canon stories would have been too limiting. The stories would not have been as good. I think LFL knew they didn't want to deal with maintaining those types of thing as canon, and I'm glad for it.

So yeah, X-Wing TMG 1 and 2 are both Legends. And that's probably a good thing in the end.

1 hour ago, Conandoodle said:

Don't forget the Great Mario Space Race of ABY23

That is totally cool looking!! Is there a set of rules to go with it posted somewhere?

22 minutes ago, Forgottenlore said:

That is totally cool looking!! Is there a set of rules to go with it posted somewhere?